Manual generator start vs AGS generator start (and genset safety)
                
                    Graham Parkinson                
                
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                    Is there any difference between just starting a generator and putting power in AC2 and starting a generator using: AGS Configuration, Generator ON, Apply?
The reason I ask is that I've had a few incidents where manual input of power to AC2 by just throwing the AC2 breaker on a running generator bogs the generator down on qualification by the XW, despite having set the XW Charge AC breaker to the correct initial value.
Never seem to have that problem via the AGS software start route. Does the AGS route into XW charging have a softer start built in, or?
Even via the AGS method I run the startup process under supervision, gradually ramping up the AC breaker setting until the generator settles to each load increment. Wish the AGS or XW software had a linear charging current ramp up function, but maybe I'm missing something....
I'm thinking of adding a POE camera and mic to my fire resistant generator shed to make remotely supervised generator operation observable to confirm generator successful start and operation. That will improve safety of remote starts at our offgrid island site in the PNW. Despite 8 kW of solar and 30kWhr of good LiFePO4 bats we still occasionally need generators in winter.
There's already a 12VDC propane cutoff solenoid that only allows fuel to be supplied when the genset is commanded to be on, and gravity venting paths to route any gas leakage safely outside.
Exhaust is securely routed outdoors, with positive fan ventilation powered by genset and CO/Fire detectors. Looking for a good LAN networked remote reading CO/Propane/Fire alarm, if those exist.
                The reason I ask is that I've had a few incidents where manual input of power to AC2 by just throwing the AC2 breaker on a running generator bogs the generator down on qualification by the XW, despite having set the XW Charge AC breaker to the correct initial value.
Never seem to have that problem via the AGS software start route. Does the AGS route into XW charging have a softer start built in, or?
Even via the AGS method I run the startup process under supervision, gradually ramping up the AC breaker setting until the generator settles to each load increment. Wish the AGS or XW software had a linear charging current ramp up function, but maybe I'm missing something....
I'm thinking of adding a POE camera and mic to my fire resistant generator shed to make remotely supervised generator operation observable to confirm generator successful start and operation. That will improve safety of remote starts at our offgrid island site in the PNW. Despite 8 kW of solar and 30kWhr of good LiFePO4 bats we still occasionally need generators in winter.
There's already a 12VDC propane cutoff solenoid that only allows fuel to be supplied when the genset is commanded to be on, and gravity venting paths to route any gas leakage safely outside.
Exhaust is securely routed outdoors, with positive fan ventilation powered by genset and CO/Fire detectors. Looking for a good LAN networked remote reading CO/Propane/Fire alarm, if those exist.
Offgrid in cloudy PNW
Full Schneider system with 18 REC 420W panels, 100A-600V controller, XWPro, Insight Home, six Discover AES Rackmount 5kW batteries, Slimline enclosure, Lynk II, AGS, H650, H2200, H3000 (Propane conversion on Victron AutoTrans with Gen Line 2 wire AGS on AC1), Kubota 4500, Onan 7500 (on second AGS and AC2).
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            Here are a couple of internet connected CO and Propane alarms found on Amazon:
1) Google Nest Protect Fire and CO $$$ (C$299)
https://www.amazon.ca/Nest-Protect-smoke-carbon-monoxide/dp/B00XJEGEI6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TL5GOUINPB5F&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WO8gSt3B53TU1foWdzifoyIpHJXZyVq6cPFP6T-Fh78BA6I0oZRxKPu3i4rbrhpZvg0ESYGkbIBBTFJI1yAC9BbqbpFRY-dDqigzvhMirAm8wwY1xLIOuTHNQKR6SpeHU9a2MU1nmK5eA8Ok2Ay7Tmbf6MZOW29C3CxLLkeC-qfK_vrDIzgkIpvQ3S6yZUNPtBzu4XEtk8c9htfISwHf18EUlStmJbvXniak5h3KwFShfhUIWwSiIyzCIeN2Uoup9bZYUSd33uykZmI7UaKDg9uZ0sc5D2VcYcBcXHDqlHg.UZX48ONTIBngsGgHgrJe2jbZaWIl4bnninmL06jTUrY&dib_tag=se&keywords=Google%2BNest%2BCO%2Balarm&qid=1762122827&sprefix=google%2Bnest%2Bco%2Balarm%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-1&th=1
2) Sanfoelek Gas Leak Detector $C38
https://www.amazon.ca/Sanfoelek-Powered-Temperature-Display-Kitchen/dp/B0FP4K1SCL/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2AD53JUCG9WGZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sbBQVn1TSLFJOVcjvJl1b-Pf9tDVk1LyBbsgkEgIYFyXbRMH7n9C_FcYxe5QPTvOtwwq1aqoVXb-uXbC7mqaSQHhDjTb1O5WbrQ7rgk_O-tpZ1-OsWyeZ_w4E8ah8Z8c-vy-QZ7Z36IbYQTdFXrRHzCCr2ul1a0Av2H5gD7SjID2V2FkjqH68hKu6xMV--EgFEwypt00iOFsLxBIq4mULmoG3gZrn-PEXz1BYYugOaNz-2Z11lVWQDK8r887dF4YV11SxIVPs5-WiaDZtgsF0jxP_ehMTdYyFD2elJcyOLk.H1BTbEMDRLmKYORcqCKbai_OVJ6pIxX_p5UcN8HaMlk&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wifi+Propane+alarm&qid=1762122561&sprefix=wifi+propane+alarm%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-5
Offgrid in cloudy PNW
Full Schneider system with 18 REC 420W panels, 100A-600V controller, XWPro, Insight Home, six Discover AES Rackmount 5kW batteries, Slimline enclosure, Lynk II, AGS, H650, H2200, H3000 (Propane conversion on Victron AutoTrans with Gen Line 2 wire AGS on AC1), Kubota 4500, Onan 7500 (on second AGS and AC2).
 
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