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Schneider Electric 6848, 80-600, combox. I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the level of operator guidance offered by the owners manual. Is there an engineering level manual for this equipment? I'm finding settings in the computer interface that are not covered in the manuals I have. Also are there other computer based interfaces out for this equipment?
2 Schneider XW+ 6848 inverters
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
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2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
For instance the link below has been on this site since October. Pretty hard to complain if you do not put the time in.
https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/353921/new-inverter-xw-pro-new-conext-gateway-with-easy-remote-monitoring-on-conext-insight-2/p1
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
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Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
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2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
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I do hope you can come by and post again... I try to keep moderation (aka censorship) at a low level here. And sometimes "in jokes" (and folks who have just had a "bad day") can appear to (or actually) cross a line.
Without body language, a forum like this, "jokes" sometimes do "go bad".
Sincerely,
-Bill
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
E-mail [email protected]
Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
E-mail [email protected]
Went to the Schneider website and downloaded the manual, followed the instructions to do a factory default reset to begin again, the manual says to install the CD supplied, there was no CD, it then says to enter a new password with at least 8 characters, guide says 6, became somewhat frustrated so stopped trying after several hours of no acceptance of the password, even default.
Next day did another factory default, reformatted the thumb drive and followed the quick guide, everything worked as described, the manual is thin on some details and really doesn't cover all features so there are still questions, which I'll post in a seperate thread. Personally I've never been much good on the IT side, having the luxury of an IT department to do everything in the past, but I am now learning, which is a good thing as I am now the IT department
Second system 1890W 3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.
5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.
https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/24549/schneider-conext-xw-what-nightmares-are-made-of/p1
Seriously considering ripping it all out, writing a review on here about my trials and tribulations, and then replacing it with something that comes with complete documentation and a user interface where all the settings actually work. I've been a big proponent of Square D, Siemens, and Schneider equipment since I started working in the electrical field. I've always considered them to be a standard in the industry and that sentiment played a big role in my purchasing this equipment. I'm sorely disappointed in the lack of information available. I'm still waiting to hear back from SE, but at this point I'm not expecting much. I'm gonna go ahead and start researching different equipment.
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric, 700 ah @24 volt AGM battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
I built my business on supporting DIY and it has been great. I go up to Canada sometimes and get the training, I know the guys and do electronic field testing and circuit validation testing. They are great to work with.and have been very good to me. I was with them when they were Xantrex and Trace before that. Alot of years (decades) flawlessly producing power for us. I also do not have to work anymore, it has to be interesting and grid power systems bore me....
I understand the frustration but I have always thought that installing a battery based grid tie power system is one of the hardest things there is. It takes alot of learning and due diligence. It also takes time for it to sink in. Outback is the only other company that builds a system like Schneider and their are plenty of hiccups there from support also.
I would not even put Midnight into a slot until they have built and supported a battery inverter for 5 years. They are great people though.
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2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
You could search this forum. The XW+ install manual does state very clearly in the beginning,
Audience This Installation Guide is intended for any qualified personnel planning to install the Conext XW+ Inverter/Charger and related system components. Qualified personnel have training, knowledge, and experience in: • Installing electrical equipment • Applying applicable installation codes • Analyzing and reducing the hazards involved in performing electrical work • Installing and configuring batteries • Selecting and using Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) Servicing of batteries must only be performed or supervised by qualified personnel knowledgeable of batteries and the required precautions. Keep unqualified personnel away from batteries. No responsibility is assumed by Schneider Electric for any consequences arising out of the use of this material.
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Schneider may come down on the more conservative side of the balance because of their channels (pros vs DIY). Their choice. Lots of folks (maybe most), just want to be able to plug in a toaster, pay someone to take care of the details, and not find themselves in a rabbit hole.
Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
What do you think my issue is that you would post this?
2 Schneider MPPT 80 600 Charge Controllers
Combox
40 335w Canadian Solar panels, 13.4kW array on an Iron Ridge racking system
1 big ass 24-85-27 refurbished forklift battery w/1430AH
That is a disclaimer, intended to protect the manufacturer, which is understandable as they sell equipment to people who may have no formal training in any discipline of the electrical trade.
As a fire alarm technician in the past I was factory trained to program and install systems although not an employee of the manufacturer, my work still had to have a third party to perform a verification, despite the fact that I could perform a verification on other's work.
The company that trained me was a new player in the game, as they became more prominent in the market they suspended my programming privilege, allowing only factory technicians to perform programming, I could as a qualified electrican still install the equipment.
As a corporate entity, perhaps Schneider want to distance themselves from unqualified DIY users/installers who probably account for the majority of warranty claims and support needs, due to inexperience and or poor installation practices. Keeping key information critical to the functionality of equipment may be part of the strategy, just a speculation on my behalf, but it dose make sense.
The information in the manuals supplied for the CSW inverter is very comprehensive, providing detailed information, much of which could be well beyond the scope of inexperienced users.
The Tesla business model is the ultimate step in proprietary operations, where only qualified licensed installers are allowed to install the equipment to retain warranty.
Perhaps what we a seeing with Schneider is a prelude to future changes......who knows.?
Second system 1890W 3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.
5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.