Nothing like honesty, Flexmax MPPT charge controller

mcgivor
mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
in Solar Skeptics, Hype, & Scams Corner #1
Check out question #5......at least they're honest about their dishonesty 
http://xihe-solar.en.made-in-china.com/product/mvhQSNCEZska/China-Fangpusun-Flexmax-MPPT-Solar-Panel-System-LCD-80A-Solar-Power-Charge-Controller-12V-24V-36V-48V-60V-Solar-Battery-Charge-Controller.html
1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Battery Bodyguard BMS 
Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
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  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2
    Amazing isn't it? They also "copy" Victron charge controllers and probably many other products. I'd be interested in seeing a head to head comparison of this FM 80 and the real thing, performance and quality.

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

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  • DConlyGuy
    DConlyGuy Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭
    edited January 2017 #3
    i have their 100/30 mppt controller and it is very nice unit for 58 bucks compared to the over 200$ victron one
    https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/30A-12V-24V-MPPT-Solar-charge-controller-with-CE-ROHS-SGS-real-MPPT-function/535617_32563125020.html  this the one i bought  they also copy the xantrax pure sine wave inverters . now what is funny is when i use the ve direct cable the victron software says i have a victron blue controller and even has a serial number too
    600 watts of solar panels,Epever 30 mppt , 2 PWHR12500W4FR battery's in 24 volt setup
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  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #4
    Even the 2" lcd is visibly exactly like the real thing. I have the Victron version. You would think the OEM's would blow a gasket seeing their products copied like this.

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #5
    Vinnie - is the plant running a 3rd shift this month ?
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
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  • OldMan
    OldMan Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2018 #6
    I'll be buying the Fangpusun versions, I think Victron is a BIG waste of money. Bigly!!!

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  • OldMan
    OldMan Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2018 #7
    littleharbor2 said:
    Even the 2" lcd is visibly exactly like the real thing. I have the Victron version. You would think the OEM's would blow a gasket seeing their products copied like this.
    I remain convinced the Fangpusun versions ARE OEM Victron, just re-badged. NOT copies - like that'd EVER happen.
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  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OldMan said:
    littleharbor2 said:
    Even the 2" lcd is visibly exactly like the real thing. I have the Victron version. You would think the OEM's would blow a gasket seeing their products copied like this.
    I remain convinced the Fangpusun versions ARE OEM Victron, just re-badged. NOT copies - like that'd EVER happen.
    Well besides the Victron copies, Fangpusun also has exact copies of Outback products and Xantrex inverters. I doubt they are rebadged and ALL coming out of the OEM factory. 

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

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  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #9
    At least they aren't trying to pass their products off as genuine.  Providing they aren't infringing on patented or copywritten IP, good on em.  Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all that.

    That said, my Chenglish isn't great, and IMHO the practicality of enforcing a warranty or product liability claim is dubious, so I'd personally take a pass.
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  • bill von novak
    bill von novak Solar Expert Posts: 891 ✭✭✭✭
    #10
    mcgivor said:
    Check out question #5......at least they're honest about their dishonesty 
    Ha!  They have just deleted question 5.
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  • MrM1
    MrM1 Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭✭✭
    #11
    Yeah I saw that.  What did #5 Say? 
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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #12
    MrM1 said:
    Yeah I saw that.  What did #5 Say? 
    The question was do Fangpusun make controllers for Outback 
    Reply, No we just copy Outback, Steca and Victron.................................There was some other mumbo-jumbo about lower prices as well.
    1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Battery Bodyguard BMS 
    Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
    5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.
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