Windows 10 laptop is the slowest computer I have ever owned.

Johann said:

I just threw my working  Dell Win 10 computer in the trash can.

Got tired of this piece sh@% t  wanting to update all the time and me having to wait for 5-15 minutes to do so.

I will get my  Win 7 PC back that my son borrowed. That Win 7 is way faster than that Win 10 ever will.

Marc Kurth said:

Since this thread came alive again:

I am really happy with my new 15" Dell laptop running a native install of Windows 10. It has a 256 GB SSD, 8 MB of ram and Intel i5 7200 processor. I bought it new from Dell for $429.99 plus tax, with free shipping.

I have all my software installed, including Quick Books, The MS Ofice 2016 suite, Adobe CS2, Adobe Acrobat Pro, my webpage authoring software, my ftp client, Macrium for hard drive mirroring. McAfee services run in the background along with all of the usual Windows modules. Cortana is disabled. I run Firefox for browsing and bunch of little pop tools.

I boot up from a cold start and have Excel up and running in 22-24 seconds. Literally.

It is typical for me to have Outlook, Word, Excel and Firefox open with 2-3 tabs. Each additional program opens in 1-2 seconds. A power down takes 3-4 seconds. Update installs are extremely fast, as are USB backup transfers to my 5 TB back up drives. My internet connection is relatively slow at 35-45 Mbps because it's cell phone based. Moving from a 1 TB internal drive to 256 GB was easy to solve with an external USB powered 2 TB portable drive. I'll say it again - the transfer speeds of these modern USB ports is impressive.

I have never owned a computer that was so fast and stable! IMHO, it is the combination of a reasonable amount of RAM and a very fast SSD.

Marc

So far today i have had a windows 10 laptop thats nearly brand new, sit there and go "connecting" "disconnect" "connecting" "disconnecting" on the wireless network every 3 seconds. Just cycling over and over again. Just after a fresh reboot.

Had to disable and re-enable the wireless adapter to fix that.

And now, on a brand new HP spectre, im copying data across the network, and in task manager it has "1.3mpbs" next to the mini graph, yet, on the large graph, it has over 300mps. Its the same graph.

So many shitty user bugs, inconsistent user interfaces, for example, you select the wireless network in the flyout, it has connect in a square button, but "properties" in dark underlined font. Oh and rightclick doesnt work. You go up a bit to the VPN connection, and it doesnt have properties. you have to go through the various clicks and the horrific to navigate networking page that shows you information about the network adapter that's totally Hecking useless. And to edit this? change your IP? you have to go BACK OUT and go somewhere else. Why not put an edit button there? no.. Heck YOU says Microsoft.

Why is right click removed from so many interfaces? Why does the left hand bar of the start menu not respond to right click at all?

I go home and drink because the future of computing is a popup-add filled start menu filled with games that no one wants, search menus that dont work and send all that you type back to microsoft, and an operating system that everytime it does an update reverts all your settings, file associations and personalised preferences. I don't know how long i can go on like this with every major OS turned into a social media data mining experience.

5 years ago, if you had of gone up to a windows 7 desktop that was restarting without your permissions, was popping up games over and over again that you un-installed, had different right click menus everywhere, was sending your search data back to unknown servers, kept resetting your file associations and kept asking you to use another browser, your first thought would be: This computer is infected with a trojan or spyware, search hijacker or BHO toolbar with third party programs running amok.

Now? Now thats a the FLAGSHIP PRODUCT of a world class company.

You spend over 200 dollars on an OS, and you get Hecking GAMES installing themselves over your bandwidth in the start menu.

So lets install office right? So you have to buy it. So you hand over your credit card, personal email address, home/business address, date of birth, all just to get a copy of office, that then installs and starts advertising the weather from the wrong Hecking LOCATION in outlook.

This is after windows 10s "location" feature being horribly broken. After all that data mining they can't do a Hecking GEOIP lookup?

Every few weeks, office gets updated. There is no QA done. The last update prevented the ability to save multiple attachments from outlook. The Hecking REASON to have outlook is to work on your emails and documents, and they cant even Hecking get that right, all the while touting all these amazing new features like integrated linux and docker functionality, they CANT GET HeckING OUTLOOK to work?

I do the IT for a professional customer facing business, and there is Hecking minecraft and candy crush soda in the start menu.

RIght now, this spectre im working on has an external dock using an external monitor and network card. So windows 10 does the obvious thing and SHUTS THE DOCK DOWN WHILE ITS USING IT!!

WHAT THE Heck.

I know after an hour, have to restart a backup procedure because windows 10 has shutdown its own network interface, that it cant even measure bandwidth on properly, after spending 30 seconds trying to work out why it has no network connections anymore for the backup im running.

Are you Hecking SERIOUS?

Wait, it gets worse. I am browsing the network again. Literally looking at the router in "Network", while the data has started copying again, and a blue bar pops up saying "this computer is not connected to a network, click to connect."

Its connected, the network logo has no yellow or red mark. im literally looking at the network.

Clicking the toolbar does nothing. It goes "connect to a network" then disappears.

Is this some sick joke that microsoft is playing on the world? to see how much shit people will take from their computer under the pretense of "Windows 10 is easier to use" "Focus on productivity!"

Lets see, look at a windows 7 machine. No popups saying "switch to edge its better!" or "how do you rate windows 10" or "would you recommend it to a colleague".

No auto-installing games in the start menu that takes up half the screen when you click it and all you want to do is open your Hecking outlook.

No unskippable full screen prompts. No popups asking you to reconnect to the network you are STILL CONNECTED TO.

You open the start menu and open your application.

how.. HOW could microsoft Heck that up? Why is there "play and explore" on a business OS?

Why is there an xbox tile in my cad machine that i can't uninstall?

Why doesn't windows 10 stay connected to a wireless network?

Why is there all this touch interface bullshit on a screen that doesn't have touch capability?

Why is the font SO HeckING HUGE. Why is there an INCH between each icon in the settings window that takes up the ENTIRE 1920x1080p screen?

Why does window defender keep putting itself in action center saying it didn't find anything during its last scan? WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT??

Why does 1 out of 10 surface computers just ignore group policy? Just.. ignores it.

Why does windows 10 routinely break offline files, pdf file associations and font sizes?

Why doesn't Search work? Why is it opening up EDGE and BING?? what the Heck i want to look for a file in my documents!!

The start menu has weather for Hecking CANBERRA and im in brisbane, the time zone is set correctly as well. Does the app do a geo ip lookup? nope. Heck it. Cant even be bothered to check the time zone much less the location.

Mine all your social media and search queries, but cant be bothered to work out where the Heck you ARE.

Go to the microsoft support forums, and 90 percent of fixes are "reinstall your os"

The other 10 percent are met with other people saying "oh it works fine for me" woopy Hecking doo to you.

Oh you don't want to use cortana? well, to Hecking bad. It's microsofts PC, and you are on microsofts terms now, its their pc, they can do what they want, because what are you going to do? nothing. You cant do a thing.

Got software that does not work on windows 10? too Hecking bad for you, they wanted everyone to use Windows Datamine Edition 10 they ACTUALLY CHANGED the definition of CLOSE to mean "Accept"

Full screen Hecking ads on perfectly working windows 7 installations to sell you on the newest shittiest least tested edition of windows ever made. An OS sooooo BAD, the standard fix for if something goes wrong is to just format and reinstall.

As well, lets make it even easier to diagnose your shitty new force installed os by REMOVING F8 boot settings!

The quickest way now to get into safe mode is to boot into normal mode and use the start menu! HOW THE Heck DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. You need safe mode because it won't Hecking boot into normal mode you stupid Hecking Heck.

Heck

Horsefly said:

Just caught up with this thread. Due to one of my out of control hobbies  , I have a number of home-built Win10 and Win7 desktops and one each laptops here (as well as three chromebooks, which I am convinced are far better than either version of Windoze).  I upgraded most of the Win7 machines to Win10 when it was free, except for a couple that were running "legacy" programs that weren't supported by Win10.

I won't question @softdown's experience. Sounds bad.

I will say though, that I've generally found Windows 10 much better than Windows 7. Faster booting, more stable, nicer features, and all the contextual menus make more sense. Maybe I'm lucky? When I retired, we had only Win7 at work, and lots of people had issues. I don't do any games, and only limited social networks. Mostly I do software development sites and tools.  I don't care for the Microsoft suite of tools (e.g., Office) and tend to use the free ones (Google docs, Libre, etc.)

I'm not too keen on the conspiracy theories of who all is spying on me. I think I have a little understanding of most of the risks, but am able feel comfortable with the risk vs. increased convenience. Anyway, I may be wrong, but if so I am at least happy!

BB. said:

And, I would never type anything on my computer that I don't want to see on a billboard on the nearby freeway (I may be tick'ed at the local/state/federal government or upset with the guy down the street--But I am sure not going to write/post stupid stuff on any network connected computer).

I am careful with online banking. And, so far, I have not had any problems there with accounts/credit cards/etc.

However, have a friend that has had some issues with (perhaps) online hacking of his bank accounts (as well as possible California DMV fraudulent ID issues in in name--DMV even "sold" his car for him when a clerk mistyped a VIN number).

And so far, he gets ZERO information from Banks, Home Depot, DVM, and even IRS (US Federal Internal Revenue Service) when reports problems--And sometimes he got his money back, other times, "still under investigation". It has been a big mess for him... And he was the guy that always uses old Windows XP (and now Win7) that have gone out of support... Don't know if related or not to security issues.

The old saying to use different passwords/logins for different websites, ad blockers to keep from downloading spyware, etc....

Much of the security losses have been based on "human factors engineering" (they convince a person to click on a bad link, download spyware from web/email, and even phone calls asking for information--Your SSI number will be canceled, Chinese Consulate has package for you, China will close your bank account if you do not send your money to them to "inspect" to make sure it is "legal", etc...

-Bill "hopefully all is OK tomorrow too" B.