1 panels seems hotter

KhellSk
KhellSk Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭
in Advanced Solar Electric Technical Forum #1

Hello everyone, im glad to be back here asking questions. I always learns tons form you guys so thanks!


I have 5x 15.6Vmp 3.3amp panels but one is a tad different, Same look same frame, tested the same with a tester. its the back and JB that are different. Anyhow, That one seems to melt snow and ice a lot faster. Right now it windy, around -4F, ice is forming and snow is accumulating on others, not that one.

Any concerns I should have ?

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[3p3s 48w 15.9Vmp] [Flooded 2x 6v 150ah]
[Victron 50/100 700wMax MPPT]







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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
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    The 100W module is double the output of the others which would explain why it may be warmer, the VMP of the other 5 is actually quite low 15.6 or 15.9V which may contribute, but if it has been working for some time, there is probably no need for concern. The colour of the surface may a also be a contributing factor.

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  • KhellSk
    KhellSk Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭
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    Its one of the 48w thays hotter.. not the 100w. Plus they r individually isolsted by a blocking diode ao i dont see why that one is warm enough melt a lot more than other

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  • jonr
    jonr Solar Expert Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    #4

    You tested volts and amps while in place?

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  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,623 admin
    #5

    It always bugs me when something that, should be otherwise identical, behaves differently than others in a set.

    If you do not have a DC current clamp meter (measure the current in each panel to see if they are working correctly), unplug one panel at a time and check the charge controller to see if the current drops equally with each panel (i.e., drops ~2 amps each time, assuming lots of sun and a battery bank/load that is drawing current).

    For example, if the panel is plugged in backwards, it would be drawing current from the rest. Or, if it has failed internally (shorted cells or connections), it could be drawing current from the other panels and causing it to heat.

    Or, the panel could just be broken (or the wiring back to the charge controller has a bad connection) and not even supplying any current. A solar panel under sun and not supplying current does get hotter than its mates.

    Everything may be fine too... But in solar with "matched panels" and batteries/cells, differences between "matched" sets, usually means something is not right.

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  • KhellSk
    KhellSk Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭
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    I tested again individually in open and short circuit and everything is pretty close. Cc doesnt read current. Panel isnt backward or the tester would have read negative. They are all isolated by blocking diodes. Its negative wire had 2 strands broken but even after fixing it, its still melting snow faster. Maybe the blocking diode failed and its drawing current.in but with the sun raising above the tree line now i dont have problem charging anymore even if.my c- rate is smaller than it should.

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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2019 #7
    https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/comment/395730#Comment_395730

    Blocking Diodes have no place in modern solar gear, except when enhancing a sellers sales revenue . They cause power loss and add points of failure, and their function has been incorporated into modern charge controllers

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  • Plucka
    Plucka Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭
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    Global warming 😎

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