(2) Pana. H.I.T. 330 panels, (1) MorningstAr 60 Amp. ChgControl, (1) Samlex PST2000 (24) V, (4) USP

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(2) Panasonic HIT 330 watt Solar Panels...(1) Morningstar 60 Amp. Charge Controller

(1) Samlex PST 2000 24 VDC TO 120 VAC....(4) USP Batteries, 12 V , 80 Amh in (sieries/parallel)
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Im thinking I need to get 4 new AGM Batteries, 12 volt/ 200 amh, so I end up with bout 400 amh total wired for 24 volt inverter?
    And 1 more Panasonic HIT 330 watt panel for total of 990 watts solar array?
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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
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    Check golf cart batteries 8×6V series parallel ~450 Ah total, they are more common hense cheaper, personally I prefer flooded, more forgiving and easier to learn how batteries work because of access to electrolyte. What sort of loads do you have this is the most important piece of the puzzle, where normally one should start when designing a system. Depending on loads and frequency of use, full time off grid for example may require slightly more PV, but without accurate load figures just speculation. Morningstar CC, PWM or MPPT? 
    1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Battery Bodyguard BMS 
    Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
    5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.
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  • Raj174
    Raj174 Solar Expert Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
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    Gator said:
    Im thinking I need to get 4 new AGM Batteries, 12 volt/ 200 amh, so I end up with bout 400 amh total wired for 24 volt inverter?
    And 1 more Panasonic HIT 330 watt panel for total of 990 watts solar array?
    The proposed battery configuration is correct, however this solar panel can only be added to your system in pairs with the  Morningstar MPPT 60 due to their high voltage. In fact, 4 panels, 2 in series by 2 in parallel would produce roughly 37 amps, or about a 10% charge rate on a 400 amp hour battery bank. Could produce a bit more in cold weather or with cloud edge effect.

    Rick
    4480W PV, MNE175DR-TR, MN Classic 150, Outback Radian GS4048A, Mate3, 51.2V 360AH nominal LiFePO4, Kohler Pro 5.2E genset.
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Raj174...So i cant use 3  solar panels with my morningstar controller?
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Raj174- Morningstar MPPT 60 AMP CHARGE CONTROLLER
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Raj174- i use big tv 50", 5000 btu air cond., and other periferal things electric....i live in my trailer and use all the time every day
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Raj 174-  So I dont need third panel, and can just continue using the 2 panels (Panasonic HIT 330 WATT ) ?
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    FOR Raj174 - my email is bogg8or@gmail.com....hope this is ok for more direct help on this subject?
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  • Raj174
    Raj174 Solar Expert Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2018 #10
    Gator said:
    Raj174...So i cant use 3  solar panels with my morningstar controller?
    I'm sorry, I was thinking that they would be configured in series. In parallel it should be fine. At 990 watts, with panel losses, they should produce about 28 amps or a 7% charge rate. A little low, however usually ok for RV or part time off grid installations. Depends on loads and how deeply the batteries will be discharged.

    Rick
    4480W PV, MNE175DR-TR, MN Classic 150, Outback Radian GS4048A, Mate3, 51.2V 360AH nominal LiFePO4, Kohler Pro 5.2E genset.
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  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2018 #11
    You can use 3 of these in a parallel configuration because they are high enough voltage for good MPPT effect into your 24 volt system. You just cant series wire them because the voltage would be too high for your controller.

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

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  • Raj174
    Raj174 Solar Expert Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
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    Gator said:
    Raj174- i use big tv 50", 5000 btu air cond., and other periferal things electric....i live in my trailer and use all the time every day
    The 5000 BTU air conditioner is a really heavy load. It will draw about 25 amps at 24 volts. If the panels are charging at 28 amps at the best 4 hours of the day, there will not be sufficient power to charge the battery from the prior night's use. A/C at 50% cycling is about 3 kWhs per day. Three panels would produce 3.3 kWhs per day. Considering all other loads and system loses, even with 4 panels, in my opinion there would not be enough power to run it reliably 24 hours a day under the best of conditions. 

    Rick  
    4480W PV, MNE175DR-TR, MN Classic 150, Outback Radian GS4048A, Mate3, 51.2V 360AH nominal LiFePO4, Kohler Pro 5.2E genset.
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Thanx, Raj174...!
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Also Thanx to "littleharbor2" !
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  • Gator
    Gator Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭✭
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    Hey, " mcgivor" ....I have Morningstar MPPT 60 Amp CC, Been thinking that I should go 6 volt like you said...but extra weight and need gas isolation boxes.
    Ive heard they have semi-auto water moniters for them too. Definitly food 4 thought. Thanx Bud!
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