How do you connect 30A MC4 Y connectors to 50A MC4?

hmong2017
hmong2017 Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭✭
edited March 2018 in Solar Beginners Corner #1
TWO QUESTIONS. 
I am building my own solar system. 
Here is my solar information:
24V, 260 Watt per Panel. I have 6 Panels. Each solar panel rates 8.37AMP. 
I am at 50.22 AMP running down the line to the 80A charge controller if I parallel them. 

The problem I am stuck on was, I can't seem to find any 50A MC4 adapters to attach on my 2 Gauge wire. 
My 2 gauge wire is 50 ft long, from my Charge Controller to my solar panels. 

I plan on using the standard 30A MC4 2 to 1 Y adapter to connect 2 panels,  I then connect all of the 2 to 1 Y adapters ( total of 3 Pos and 3 neg) into the 3 to 1 MC4 Y connector 50A pos and neg.  

Now I am stuck, I don't have &  can't find a 50A adapter to crimp my 2 gauge wire on it to connect to my panels. 
I hope I made sense and that you understand. 
I am starting to assume that I will have to use a 30A to crimp my 2 gauge huge wire and use a 30a mce to connect to a 50a MC4? 

Also, Can standard 30a MC4 clip on with 50a MC4s?  or is the 50a MC4 is a lot bigger? Never seen one before. 
If these two question is solved then I am ready to order my stuff in. 
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  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2
    You need to terminate your strings in a Fused Combiner box.  Anything more than 2 parallel strings require individual circuit protection.   From there you don't need MC-4 connectors and can run from combiner to controller or breaker box in conduit.

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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #3
    You'll need something like this https://www.solar-electric.com/mnpv3.html to combine the panels, maximum  two panels in parallel, any more than that, there is the possibility of a failed panel being back fed by a potential greater than a single panel. Having a single breaker per panel is useful in trouble shooting, combiner are available with more breakers than the linked example.
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  • Raj174
    Raj174 Solar Expert Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
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    @hmong2017
    What is the VMP voltage of the 260 watt panels. If it's around 31 volts, it's a 60 cell panel and not a true 24 volt nominal panel. Which means this panel wired in parallel will not have sufficient voltage to charge a 24 volt battery and the panels will need to be wired 2 in series by 3 in parallel. If the VMP voltage is about 36 volts then it should work ok.

    Rick 
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  • Photowhit
    Photowhit Solar Expert Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #5
    To continue with @Raj174 thoughts on the voltage of panels and your overall system. What 80 amp charge controller are you using? Most that handle 80 amps are MPPT type. 

    MPPT type are good for this type of problem because they allow you to connect the panels in series, perhaps 2 strings of 3 panels to avoid needing fusing, as @mcgivor has said. When you add panels in strings, the voltage adds and the amperage stays the same. This is desirable for traveling longer distances with less loss of power(wattage) due to voltage drop in wires.
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