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robocop
robocop Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭
Hi
mppt controller input is 150v and have 3 panels  of 48v 500w each in parellel total is 144v .(3x48v)
Is it ok or too risky 

Bob

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  • JRHill
    JRHill Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭✭
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    robocop said:
    Hi
    mppt controller input is 150v and have 3 panels  of 48v 500w each in parellel total is 144v .(3x48v)
    Is it ok or too risky 

    Bob
    Mr. Bob, please put your hardware list in your signature line. there is about no way to answer your question.
    Off Grid. Two systems: 1) 2925w panels, OB VFXR3648, FM80, FNDC, Victron BMV-712, Mate3s, 240 xformer, four SimpliPHI 3.8; 2) 780w, Morningstar 30a, Grundfos switch, controller and AC/DC pump, 8 T105. Honda EU7000is w/AGS. Champion 3100. HF 4550, Miller Bobcat.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,448 admin
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    Bob, it is "close"... The system is installed in the southern Caribbean sea off the coast of Venezuela (as I recall).

    Curaçao 
    island, West Indies

    Your minimum temperature is around 68F (20C)? The Voc/Isc/Vmp/Imp are based on 25C spec sheet rated panel temperature.

    What is the panel rating of 48 volts--Is that Voc or Vmp @ 25C?

    If that is 48 volts Vmp--Then 3 panels in series would be >150 Volts (Voc-array-cold) as Vmp is lower voltage than Voc (voltage open circuit.

    If that 48 volts is Voc-panel-std -- You might not exceed 150 VDC Voc-array-cold for your area (Voc and Vmp array rise as temperatures drop below 25C).

    A 3*48volt Voc series array would reach ~146.4 volts Voc-array-cold using this array calculator:

    https://www.midnitesolar.com/sizingTool/index.php

    It is close--But could work OK. However, if some weird cold front moves through your place several years down the road--All bets are off.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    As BB mentioned, the correct term is SERIES, not parallel. In parallel the voltage doesn't add, the current (amps) does.

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

  • robocop
    robocop Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭
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    Hi especially for Bill you were right I gave wrong details  the voc is 58.95 NOT 48v this is the vmp  .
    so has to put only 2 panel in series . So if use panel has to combine 2S3P .
    now only look for a photo with combination to illustrate how to combine.
    again I am thankful for your advice .
  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Typical Combiner box. Often installed near the PV array. Strings in, one pair of larger wire out 

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,448 admin
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    Think of the combiner box as very similar to a standard power panel (main power in, multiple branch circuits out)... However the combiner box is just multiple solar panels in, and the "main power" out to the input of the MPPT charge controller.

    MidniteSolar (supplier to our host Northern Arizona Wind & Sun / NAZ) has quite a few documents & videos on their products... For example:

    https://midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=77&productCat_ID=9&sortOrder=5&act=p

    Also--Think about lightning protection (surge suppressors) if that is an issue for you(?). Mostly, you want to keep the lightning energy outside of your home (to the best of your ability/design).

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • robocop
    robocop Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭
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    thanks for your advice of the combiner box BUT  I meant  how to wiring the 5 solar panels in  2 serial and 3 parallel (2S3P).

    best regards
    Bob
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,448 admin
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    You cannot... Your options are:

    2s*2p (4 panels only, one "unused" panel)
    2s*3p (6 panels, purchase one more)
    1s*5p (5 panels, only if the battery bank is 12 or 24 volts--Not high enough voltage for 48 volt bank)

    There are other options such as 2s*1p (2 panels) on your present charge controller, and purchase a 2nd "higher voltage" 3s*1p (other 3 panels).

    Or purchase a much higher rated array voltage controller and run a 5s*1p array (5 panels total).

    Or am I "not understanding" your question?

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • robocop
    robocop Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭
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    Yes yes Bil thank you understood and thnks for your time.

    Bob