Jerry rigging bug light with burned out bulb?

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I bought this 80's vintage bug light for $3 knowing that the fluorescent bulb didn't work. It is an Amcor Katlan 25, it was the "Cadillac" of bug friars in its heyday. Weighs a good 15 pounds of "vintage American steel "and was built to last.
The electrical grid that fries the bugs still works. The 15" blue T8 fluorescent bug light is no longer available. The manufacturer is still in business making other stuff. They have not responded to my contact. T8 means the bulb is .8" wide (T12s are 1.2" wide). 15" seems to be the issue with finding a blue bulb.
We have a couple good Mcgivor's here. I think it would work with any blue bulb close to the bug frying grid. Ideas?
Yes....I do a lot of unusual things. Thanks.
The electrical grid that fries the bugs still works. The 15" blue T8 fluorescent bug light is no longer available. The manufacturer is still in business making other stuff. They have not responded to my contact. T8 means the bulb is .8" wide (T12s are 1.2" wide). 15" seems to be the issue with finding a blue bulb.
We have a couple good Mcgivor's here. I think it would work with any blue bulb close to the bug frying grid. Ideas?
Yes....I do a lot of unusual things. Thanks.
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It seems to me bugs like white light too. Maybe it was blue to make it less annoying to humans but still attract bugs?
If you want blue, how about a strip of blue LEDs stuck to the reflector where the old bulb would go?Off-grid.
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Estragon said:It seems to me bugs like white light too. Maybe it was blue to make it less annoying to humans but still attract bugs?
If you want blue, how about a strip of blue LEDs stuck to the reflector where the old bulb would go?
Anybody know of blue "stick on" LEDs?First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries -
Getting a little carried away, but something like this could look pretty cool...
http://www.leevalley.com/en/Hardware/page.aspx?p=72803&cat=3,43349,71436Off-grid.
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This ought to work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X84LSBU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Estragon said:Getting a little carried away, but something like this could look pretty cool...
http://www.leevalley.com/en/Hardware/page.aspx?p=72803&cat=3,43349,71436First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries -
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> Neat idea in many ways. Bit costly by the time one adds power supply/wiring, color controller, and switch..
Yup, definitely spendy and frivolous. Sometimes I do stuff like that, just because
The aquarium light looks like it should get'er done.Off-grid.
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Estragon said:> @softdown said:
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> http://www.leevalley.com/en/Hardware/page.aspx?p=72803&cat=3,43349,71436
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> Neat idea in many ways. Bit costly by the time one adds power supply/wiring, color controller, and switch..
Yup, definitely spendy and frivolous. Sometimes I do stuff like that, just because
The aquarium light looks like it should get'er done.First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries -
I liked the idea about the light from amazon. An idea I have is to put a string of blue rope lights.
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solarvic said:I liked the idea about the light from amazon. An idea I have is to put a string of blue rope lights.First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries
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It looks like like they now use some sort of UV light in the zappers and replacements are available on Amazons site... as well as other chain store retailers for ~$20 or less
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westbranch said:It looks like like they now use some sort of UV light in the zappers and replacements are available on Amazons site... as well as other chain store retailers for ~$20 or less
The blue LED strip previously mentioned works well. Ran it indoors all night and zapped nothing. Hoped it would attract flies....always seem to have 1-2 in the morning. Probably due to goats in the area, they like to sleep next to the house. Moved their "goat house" but they stayed next to house. The blue light and bug zapper doesn't seem to attract flies. Not surprised or they would be widely used in horse stables etc.
Don't get goats. They walk in every time a door is left open for a bit. They chew on everything. If I could eat pets, I would. One is cool, very dog like. The other is a demon who torments me.First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries -
Fluorescent lamps are low pressure mercury arc lamps... And produce from UVC (hard UV radiation) into the visible light spectrum.For lighting, the glass chosen for the tub blocks the hard UV radiation and the phosphors down convert from UV to visible spectrum light.The Wiki Article is pretty interesting:-Bill
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BB. said:Fluorescent lamps are low pressure mercury arc lamps... And produce from UVC (hard UV radiation) into the visible light spectrum.For lighting, the glass chosen for the tub blocks the hard UV radiation and the phosphors down convert from UV to visible spectrum light.The Wiki Article is pretty interesting:-Bill
They usually encase UV bulbs in more "specialty type" sizes. Perhaps they used to use T5 frequently before that size became common? I have seen several UV bulbs that were quite slim.
As has been mentioned before, it is not unusual for T5 bulbs to have very short lives. I think the ballast is a common culprit? This is unrelated to UV bulbs by the way.First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries -
softdown said:Don't get goats. They walk in every time a door is left open for a bit. They chew on everything. If I could eat pets, I would. One is cool, very dog like. The other is a demon who torments me.
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mike95490 said:softdown said:Don't get goats. They walk in every time a door is left open for a bit. They chew on everything. If I could eat pets, I would. One is cool, very dog like. The other is a demon who torments me.
He said to get goats, they eat tumbleweeds. Another huge mistake. Goats like paper and cardboard the best. Some paper is important. I leave doors open when running around this place carrying heavy stuff. Guess who comes in and chews on everything? Eating really important papers when given the chance.
I have visualized shooting the demon goat many times. Then the good goat would be miserable, they need company. Building a few acre fence has its problems as well. Takes a few acres to support much is this desert like environment. Have to admit to usually spoiling pets, let alone shooting and eating them. Couldn't do it unless situation was dire.
LIfe has so many difficulties when getting much done. So I tried doing almost nothing for awhile. Very little went wrong but boring as hell. Painfully boring at times.First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries
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