The smartflower seems interesting

solar_dave
solar_dave Solar Expert Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2017 in Solar Information links & sources, event announcements #1
https://www.smartflower.com/en

Comes in grid-tie and 2 off grid storage sizes.

Installation looks pretty simple
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  • Lumisol
    Lumisol Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    #2
    The link was for a smart flower not sunflower.
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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #3
    Trackers and MPPT to my eye.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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  • solar_dave
    solar_dave Solar Expert Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭✭
    #4
    Lumisol said:
    The link was for a smart flower not sunflower.
    Fixed
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  • Lumisol
    Lumisol Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    #5
     :) 
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  • Lumisol
    Lumisol Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    #6
    It kind of reminds me of the AIO cooling loops you can buy these days. They do work but not nearly as well as a custom solution you build yourself for less.
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  • bill von novak
    bill von novak Solar Expert Posts: 891 ✭✭✭✭
    #7
    solar_dave said:
    https://www.smartflower.com/en

    Comes in grid-tie and 2 off grid storage sizes.

    Installation looks pretty simple
    Seems like a lot of cost and complexity for a simple solar system.  Perhaps if it was in an area with insane winds or hail, or nasty neighbors who will fight you tooth and nail on what it looks like, the ability to stow the array might be useful.
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  • Dave Angelini
    Dave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #8
    Tried contacting them over a year ago 4 times for a client. Nada!
    Looks like a mechanical nightmare and I would rather have the experience of Array Technology for any moving parts for Offgrid.
     
    On Grid, go for it :)
    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
       htps://offgridsolar1.com/
    E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net

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  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #9
    The picture of the "e" version with a guy charging an ev in front an apartment building screams "tag me". Maybe they don't have taggers in Austria?
    Off-grid.  
    Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
    Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
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  • mvas
    mvas Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017 #10
    Smart-Flower
    2,500 Watts STC mono-crystaline panels on a dual axis tracker
    $17,000 without batteries
    $22,000 with batteries
    weighs 1,500 lbs
    warranty:
      25 years - panels
      10 years - inverter
      2 years mechanical / electrical, add 3 more years additional cost
    $3.50 - $4.50 per KWHr
    Closes every night
    Safety Position in winds over 32 mph
    Consumes 100 KWHr of electricity per year
    Works -4°F to 122°F

    vs.

    2,650 Watt, Solar Edge, Iron Ridge = $5,406
    https://www.solar-electric.com/solaredge-grid-tie-kit-2650-watts.html

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  • Lumisol
    Lumisol Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    #11
    Estragon said:
    The picture of the "e" version with a guy charging an ev in front an apartment building screams "tag me". Maybe they don't have taggers in Austria?
    What is a tagger?
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  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #12
    A tagger is a grafitti "artist". The term "tagger" describes the use of grafitti to mark territory. It seems to be pretty much everywhere, but I've never been to Austria.
    Off-grid.  
    Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
    Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #13
    mvas said:
    Smart-Flower
    2,500 Watts STC mono-crystaline panels on a dual axis tracker
    $17,000 without batteries
    $22,000 with batteries
    weighs 1,500 lbs
    warranty:
      25 years - panels
      10 years - inverter
      2 years mechanical / electrical, add 3 more years additional cost
    $3.50 - $4.50 per KWHr
    Closes every night
    Safety Position in winds over 32 mph
    Consumes 100 KWHr of electricity per year
    Works -4°F to 122°F

    vs.

    2,650 Watt, Solar Edge, Iron Ridge = $5,406
    https://www.solar-electric.com/solaredge-grid-tie-kit-2650-watts.html


    A Ferrari has 4 wheels 500Hp, looks sexy as hell gets you from A to B etcetera ,a Toyota Corolla, although not as sexy performs the same basic functions without the complexity and sexyness and fewer Hp, and costs less to boot ......sometimes simplicity has a quality of its own. I'm inclined to agree with the above.
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    Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
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  • Lumisol
    Lumisol Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    #14
    I'll trade you a brand new corolla for a brand new la ferrari straight across. And as many times as you like. :)
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  • boB
    boB Solar Expert Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    #15
    Yeah, I saw this thing last September at SPI in Vegas.   Awful value if all you want is solar power.   Be careful of high wind areas too !  Might be a killer !

    boB
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  • Sol4r
    Sol4r Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭✭
    #16
    It's cool but I might spend $17,000 elsewhere
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