Fixed roof mount optimum angle

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HumMichael
HumMichael Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭✭
Hello everyone.
As I am carefully planning my permanently mounted system, I am considering roof mounting my panels.
Based on my latitude, I would like the panel to be set at about 34 degrees, however my roof is 4/12 pitch. 
I have tried to design the mounts using design features of Ironridge and Renogy neither of them seem to offer any option in terms getting the desired fixed angle.
Should I be looking at another manufacturer or am I missing something?
Thanks
Michael

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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If this is grid-tie, you want the optimum yearly angle, that gives the greatest harvest over the year.

    If off-grid, I chose to mount my arrays at the optimum winter angle, to get the most from the sun on the short days. Summer, I'm in float by noon, and still running 1Kw of pumps, while in float

    (winter, I'm still buying diesel for the generator, my harvest today was a grand 1,630 watt hours - off of 5Kw of panels
     and  that's better than my low of 590wh in Jan ! )
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  • HumMichael
    HumMichael Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭✭
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    Thanks for reply. My question is which roof mount can I possibly use to compensate for my low roof pitch.
    There must be way to order the northside  mounting legs to be taller rather than keeping panels at equal angle to the roof.
  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭
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    I found a local welder on Craiglist that had reasonable prices on 1/8" angle iron. Angle iron works great but it must be primed then painted. Lag screws are good anchors. Galvanized may be called for.

    Panel angle is important.....you seem to be aware of that.

    Southern folks that use the A/C a lot should orient for summer production. Most should probably focus on winter production due to the short, cloudy days of winter. Plus spending time indoors using lights and televisions etc.
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  • HumMichael
    HumMichael Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭✭
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    Thanks. I thought for sure name brand roof mounts had way to adjust to a necessity angle. Hard to justify those rails then.
  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There are definitely rack systems with adjustable back legs to set panel angle. I use just such a system, bought from NAWS a few years ago. They don't list that particular rack now, but a similar rack is listed under roof/ground mounts on the site.

    There are a lot of choices and variable with different panels, slopes, wind/snow loads, etc. , so you might want to contact NAWS to discuss.
    Off-grid.  
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  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭
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    Some prefer aluminum. I like iron myself. pvwatts.gov tells you what angle yields what output for a normal month.
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  • dennis461
    dennis461 Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2017 #8
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    Depends on how many rows/columns are going on the roof.
    Most residential roof mounts simply use the existing tile, in your case around 20 degrees.
    Either company should have what you need.
    In NJ, my township, an engineering study was needed for roof loading and wind loading which can get complicated with additional tilt.
    Seems like all you need are some 14 degree anodized aluminum brackets for the bottom rail, and an extension and 14 degree bracket for top rail on each row.
    I mention aluminum to stay compatible with the vendor aluminum.

    Iron ridge calls their system  Tilt Mount for Flat roofs, you just put the system on your pitched roof, maybe some additional support to keep gravity from tilting it more each day :-)


    Camden County, NJ, USA
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  • HumMichael
    HumMichael Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭✭
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    I saw that tilt model for a flat roof as well. Possibly intergrating that feature would be great. I will do mote research. Thanks