Which inverter charger would you buy

just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
I have aboue 3k to spend on a gen and new inverter but grid power is only 15 k away would a gt outback 3524 be the way to go or a magnum4024
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  • vtmapsvtmaps Solar Expert Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭✭
    I have aboue 3k to spend on a gen and new inverter but grid power is only 15 k away would a gt outback 3524 be the way to go or a magnum4024
    Neither.  The grid is the way to go.  Regarding your budget, don't forget that both of those inverters are incomplete without their controls, shunts, battery monitors etc.   Many folks buy an inverter and it ruins their batteries because they are using the default inverter settings.   They may be upset when they find out how expensive it is to buy the controls for these inverters.

    It is actually a good thing that Outback and Magnum do not include the controls with their inverters... these inverters can be stacked (multiple inverters synchronized to make a larger system).  If you were stacking four inverters, you wouldn't want to buy four sets of built-in controls.

    Regarding the Magnum vs the Outback, either is a good choice... if your generator has a 240 volt output, or if you need 240 volts in your house, the Magnum would be a better choice (but an Outback with a transformer would work just as well). 

    By the way, give some thought to buying an inverter that has gen support (neither of the inverters you mentioned does gen support).

    --vtMaps
    4 X 235watt Samsung, Midnite ePanel, Outback VFX3524 FM60 & mate, 4 Interstate L16, trimetric, Honda eu2000i
  • South AfricaSouth Africa Solar Expert Posts: 295 ✭✭✭
    Just to put it out there: https://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers/quattro
    They have generator support.
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Only need it for a new washer I think I've decided just to get the remote for my current inverter and a Honda eu2000i and just wash withe gen not inverter power
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just starting said:   ...grid power is only 15 k away ....
    Do you mean that it is a 15 Kilometer distance away, or  $15,000 money away ?   For me, $15K would barely pay the electric company to install 2 of the 15 poles they insisted I buy.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Just four poles @ 15000.00 can see the trans former but had solar from another place so went with it
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • verdigoverdigo Solar Expert Posts: 428 ✭✭
    vtmaps said:
    I have aboue 3k to spend on a gen and new inverter but grid power is only 15 k away would a gt outback 3524 be the way to go or a magnu

    Regarding the Magnum vs the Outback, either is a good choice... if your generator has a 240 volt output, or if you need 240 volts in your house, the Magnum would be a better choice (but an Outback with a transformer would work just as well). 

    By the way, give some thought to buying an inverter that has gen support (neither of the inverters you mentioned does gen support).

    --vtMaps

    Outback FXR  has generator support.

  • animattanimatt Solar Expert Posts: 295 ✭✭✭
    Are you limited to 24v.based on existing battery bank? could be a perfect time to go to 48v.
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Not limited just grid power is only 15000 away and have msw need to buy a washer and just looking at all options including a samlex 600 watt puresine just to run washer and use instead of 2800 watt using 36 watts on stand by
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • 2twisty2twisty Solar Expert Posts: 199 ✭✭✭
    What does that washing machine draw? 600W seems a bit small.
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    From some other threads I've read a fl direct drive uses less than six hundred
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Our samsung washer & dryer, only pull about 300w ea. (front load, 2010 model)  the washer does make the inverter groan a bit as it's always changing speed and reversing.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

  • vtmapsvtmaps Solar Expert Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭✭
    Mike's 6000 watt inverter groans under the startup surge from a washer that draws 300 watts.  His post was not as explicit as it could have been... let me spell it out: a 600 watt inverter will not power your laundry. 

    --vtMaps
    4 X 235watt Samsung, Midnite ePanel, Outback VFX3524 FM60 & mate, 4 Interstate L16, trimetric, Honda eu2000i
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Can any one come up with a surge
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    I saw a post from Wayne from Canada he said his washer would rum from 300w but stop at spin but would run from a 600 watt and he uses a 1000 watt for it
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Post is ( the washing machine problem)
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    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Thanks bill
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  • zonebluezoneblue Solar Expert Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭✭
    Washing machines: depends on the motor in the thing. Direct drive motors will start and run on 1000W inverter. Ordirnary motors with belts and clutches will not.
    1.8kWp CSUN, 10kWh AGM, Midnite Classic 150, Outback VFX3024E,
    http://zoneblue.org/cms/page.php?view=off-grid-solar


  • just startingjust starting Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    Just to revisit went with a fl Samsung wf5200 steam and a samlex PST 1500 works great even if the freezer to fridge kicks on during wash could have used a 1000 watt inverter but wanted to hard wire plug for washer
    200ah LiFePO4 24v Electrodacus Sbms40 quad breaker chest freezer to fridge- Samlex PST 1524 - Samlex pst3024  - 1hp shallow well pump-Marey 4.3 GPM on demand waterheater - mama bear Fisher wood burning stove, 30" fridgarair oven ,fridegaire dishwasher  Unique 290l stainless D.C. Fridge-unique 120l portable fridge/freezer 
  • Farmerboyz1721Farmerboyz1721 Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭✭
    I have a Magnum 2812 and have been very happy with it. It is a great unit. I would imagine that the magnum 4024 will do GREAT!. But, remember that you need to budget for the controller. Also Magnum do have Gen support. When i get my house done i will be getting the Magnum 4348. 
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