24 volt computer fan

petertearaipetertearai Solar Expert Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
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Hi . My system was 12 volts with a 12 volt rv water pump. Strapped to the top of the pump i had a 7 watt 12 volt fan . This worked for 10 years or so, i think keeping the motor cool helped .
I have done a change to 24 volts now . considered a voltage step down unit for the 12 volt pump, however considering its age, got a new 24 volt pump. To this i added  a 24 volt fan. . have had 2 of these fans fail, i think maybe because of the increased voltage above the 24 volts . ie 29 volts for absorb.
So ....... think a resister in series with the fan may help , or a voltage regulter . What size resister ?  or would i be better with a small regulator  circuit ?
Any help would be appreciated 
Regards  Peter
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  • BB.BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 32,601 admin
    #2
    tWhat is the wattage/amperage of the fan?

    For example if 1/4 amp fan and you want 30-24=6 volt drop:

    V=IR, R=V/I = 6 volts / 0.25 amps = 24 ohms
    P=V*I= 6 volts * 0.25 Amps = 1.5 Watt minimum resistor size/power rating

    i don't think it will hurt the fan to use an in-line resistor... May start a little slow and may run a little slower RPM.

    Does the water pump run long enough to get hot? Most DC RV pumps use brushed motors--And frequently the brushes wear out--And you can replace them sometimes (depending on motor design).

    -Bill
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  • oil pan 4oil pan 4 Solar Expert Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
    #3
    Try to get a 36 volt fan. Then it will just run it at slightly reduced speed.

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  • zonebluezoneblue Solar Expert Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭✭
    #4
    Get one of those 2 buck ebay dc to dc converters. That way you can adjust it to your perfect speed. eg:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/LM2596HVS-LM2596HV-DC-DC-Adjustable-Step-Down-Buck-Converter-Power-Supply-Module-/310788581728

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  • petertearaipetertearai Solar Expert Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    #5
    hi thanks for your reply's. . The watts on the 24 volt fans are i think still around 7 watts . The 24 volt fans are free, ie no cost , but still need them to run reliably. The instructions on the new pump say for intermittent use only . Still with cooling my old 12 volt pump would often run continuously for 2 hours or so , and was still serviceable when retired . Didnt look at the 12 volt pump instructions, but am informed most of rv pumps are not continuously rated . . Will look into both sugestions . thanks .
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  • petertearaipetertearai Solar Expert Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    #6
    Hi Zone blue  . I havnt used ebay , free shipping and only 2 bucks . Sounds 2 good to be true .Have you used this .?
    2225 wattts pv . Outback 2kw  fxr pure sine inverter . fm80 charge controller . Mate 3. victron battery monitor . 24 volts  in 2 volt Shoto lead carbon extreme batterys. off grid  holiday home 
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  • PhotowhitPhotowhit Solar Expert Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    eBay Stuff that comes from China, can take a long time and sometimes doesn't make it at all. I had 2 sets of 5 - 6inch stainless rules, that I was refunded after they passed the expected delivery dates of 6 weeks and 10 weeks. I usually have received the items purchased from china, and for the most part have been what they said they were, Cheap water pump, 'T' amps, bearings, star bit screw drivers...
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  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #8
    if you are burning out 24v fans, you may be slowly killing your pump motor too.....
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  • petertearaipetertearai Solar Expert Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    #9
    good point .was hoping the pump would be designed for absorb voltage .
    2225 wattts pv . Outback 2kw  fxr pure sine inverter . fm80 charge controller . Mate 3. victron battery monitor . 24 volts  in 2 volt Shoto lead carbon extreme batterys. off grid  holiday home 
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