Good range topic?
Brock
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Ok I swear we had a topic on here with someone buying a new gas range and talked about glowbars vs pilots vs electronic spark. I can't find it for the life of me and we need to buy a new range.
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Found out I don't like pilots. My parents home still has pilots on the old stove--can really smell them (natural gas)--plus now-a-days wasted energy costs. Also, gas pilot without the vent fan on makes for yellow/sticky walls.
Glow bars--one appliance repair man said he replaces them pretty regularly--they don't last that long (few years or a little more). Had a clamp-on amp meter to check current flow--if it was about 10-20% below normal (IIRC), he would replace the glow bar ("bad" bars would still glow, apparently just fine--just not quite hot enough to reliably light the fire).
Lastly, on spark ignition--our contractor installed the hot/neutral reversed (carpenter did not have a meter). The range top electronic sparks sort of worked. I would have never guessed hot/neutral polarity would have mattered.
Our stove has spark for range top (auto-relight if flame blows out) and glow-bars for oven/broiler. Other than when the "spark plug" gets wet, dirty or when a piece of foil (wive uses to keep stove top clean) gets near the spark-plug--have not had any problems (after the wiring fix) for that last ~2 years). Replaced a spark module on bother-in-law's central heat many years ago--easy and no further problems.
If you are going inverter power for the stove--I would probably stay away from Modified-Square/Sine-Wave style inverters (as you know better than I).
What is your specific concern(s)?
My 2 cents worth.
Glow bars are very intolerant of dirt/grease/oils much like a halogen lamp, grease creates a hot spot, and they fail.
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Brock,
I suspect you may be thinking about discussions over on the other forum that we frequent:
http://www.outbackpower.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=496&highlight=glowbar
http://www.outbackpower.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1935&highlight=glowbar
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Thanks all, Jim your a life saver, I thought I was loosing it
Since I'm not registered on "that other board" 'cause another password will make my head explode, I have a question. I've now seen 3 types of igniters:
Turn to Start, it sparks, after lit, turn back to "whatever"
Turn to "whatever" and arc automatically fires till burner lights, and then shuts down, if burner goes out, sparks again till lit.
Turn to "whatever" and glowbar (hot surface igniter) lights gas, re-lites if flame blows out
I've listed them in what I assume would be in order of their power draw. (fancier ones take more power to do their functions) Am I right in assuming the power consumption and sequence. Any other igniter styles ?
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
Now I, of course, ALWAYS remember everything.... RIGHT!!!! :-o :roll:
Mike,
How about just using the same username and password? Sorry I can't help with the igniters... I don't know much about 'em.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Mike I think you’re right on. The trick is often the surface burners might be spark and the oven might be glow bar. I am trying to avoid a glow bar all together to avoid the load.
Same user name a password works for me
No search function on teh other board
what ever happened to using piezo-electric igniters like those on gas grills? they use no electricity whatsoever?
Brock,
:? There's a "Search" hot link just under the "Most Recent Posts" list... You may need to set your profile "Board Style" to "Default" in order to reveal the link.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
No profit margin?
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,
no profit for whom? the people that sell them are making some money. here's a link to some in a pdf: http://www.gasgrillsusa.com/pdf/ignitors.pdf
this is what we have, its an amana i think with superlarge oven. i like it. the nice thing is you can light it manually if the power goes out.