What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??



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  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??
    Batikikik wrote: »
    What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    thanks

    Ground or pole mount. Most corrugated metal roof is very lightweight, and very thin frame work under it.

    If it's really beefy structure underneath, drill thru the peaks, and bolt to the members underneath the metal. then apply lots of sealant.
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  • JburgessJburgess Solar Expert Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Mine is attached like this, if this is kind of roof you mean.

    Roofmounting.jpg
  • rollandelliottrollandelliott Solar Expert Posts: 834 ✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    if you want to make your own easternmetalsupply.com has all kinds of aluminum bar/rod/extrusions.
  • TumbleweedsTumbleweeds Registered Users Posts: 6
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    You might want to check with a PROFESSIONAL roofer before drilling/ mounting through the peaks, flexing from wind loads guarantees leaks, loose connections, failing mounts. I might be new at solar stuff, but I've got 50 years experience in metal roofs of all kinds.
  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Attached some photos
  • JburgessJburgess Solar Expert Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Here’s some photos to match the drawing I posted.

    Standoff without boot
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    Standoff with boot
    0427111847.jpg

    Nut on underside.
    0427111856a.jpg

    Hope this helps.
  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Looks like you have to drill steel joist and attach with bolts under. Do you have more pictures which show layout . This prosolar`s racking cost 12c per watt right ? We have 3 deg slope and we have to raise to get 15 degree. I dont know if this is the but solution or not.


    Thank you
  • JburgessJburgess Solar Expert Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Yes the holes were drilled to attach to the web of the purlins. Don’t really know the cost of the prosolar racking, My roof was at 18 degrees so the panels are flat with the roof.

    The panels made the building noticeably cooler in the summer from the shade.

    There is also a dozen pages of engineering calcs. as most steel buildings are minimally engineered. Fortunately mine had 12 inches more of snow load that required, so no additional bracing was required for the addition of the solar panels.

    Is this what you were looking for as a picture of layout?
    PICT0582-1.jpg
  • System2System2 Posts: 6,290 admin
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Jburgess,

    Looks good. I'm planning on installing an array on my pole barn with the same type of metal roof, but I have rafters. What type of racking did you use with your Projacks? Thanks.

    Eric
  • JburgessJburgess Solar Expert Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    The racking is prosolar only because I was trying to match the exsisting racking when I expanded my system.

    Old panels are dirty, new are clean.

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  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    I think there should be better options now ? Is there any another solution except prosolar? Because this project is 645kW And its gonna be 2800 drilled Holes which I dont like it :))))))))))))))
  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    And is it possible to give tilt to array ?
    Thank you
  • Peak SolarPeak Solar Registered Users Posts: 13
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_2626.cfm

    Don't worry about the tilt on a job that size. The slight increase in energy production will not outway the increased racking costs associated with tilting the modules.
  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Peak Solar
    I have a pitched roof , which has 4 Deg Slope (12/0.5). I have attached photo.
    Slopes facing north and south. I am looking for the best racking to have 12 degree facing south for both sides .


    thank you
  • Blackcherry04Blackcherry04 Solar Expert Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Not trying to Butt in, but can't you just use different length standoff's ?? I had a 12/5 pitch and used 3" on the front rail and 6" on the rear and the cost was less then $2.00 per standoff. I thought about them catching wind, but they are low enough below the ridge, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    I dont know exactly. Even I dont know if it is a good idea to have a tilt on corrugated metal roof . I have never done large installation like this on corrugated metal. Project size is 625 kW .

    Thank you
  • nielniel Solar Expert Posts: 10,300 ✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    how would the roof know that 2 of the posts are 6 inches and 2 are 3 inches? it doesn't and there will be better cooling of the pvs with that 6 inches on 2 posts.
  • Solar GuppySolar Guppy Solar Expert Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    How are you modeling / calculating the inter row spacing to prevent module shading due to the proposed angle lift?

    In a project this size, I would not add tilt, I would add modules as for the same sf, all being flat will bring in more harvest than spaced out with less panels on tilt
  • JburgessJburgess Solar Expert Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    Here's a random picture on the web of tilt racking on a metal building:

    DBKSolarPV013.jpg
  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??
    Batikikik wrote: »
    .....
    Slopes facing north and south. I am looking for the best racking to have 12 degree facing south for both sides .


    thank you

    You better get an engineer on the project to consider windload, from the north. Those panels will grab the wind and carry the building away !!
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

  • BatikikikBatikikik Solar Expert Posts: 141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: What is the best racking for corrugated metal roof ??

    mike90045 . Engineering is done already. And it is not gonna take the roof out.

    Solar Guppy I agree with you to optimize rood and maximize solar output its better to have modules flush with roof than have inter row spacing.

    But this building`s roof has only 4 Deg slope. Inter row spacing will not be that much .And tilt angle will be 12 Deg facing south .
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