BillF wrote: »
I have sold products from SWWP for many years and have used them on a personal basis and experienced some problems. I have sold and installed other brands too. They have had their share of problems. In fact every turbine manufacture has its share of problems. I did stop offering the SS3.7 while the problems with them were sorted out. .... There is no such thing as a no maintenance wind turbine. No matter what any manufacture states.
BillF wrote: »
@russ...To clarify; my point in stating the kWh production was to show that the Skystream 3.7 is capable of generating a decent amount of power when the resource is available.
BillF wrote: »
@russ...Quote: That 1 percent of the time is exactly the hype and marketing scam. Just how often does the wind blow this fast at this 24' to 36' height. Could you ask your customer what he makes, in power, the other 99 percent of time? What is the duty cycle for this ss 3.7? Just how long can it sustain 49kwh per day? 2.04kw per hour? What is the cp of the complete turbine? At 50 percent efficient this machine would be dissipating 2.04kw average an hour.
I feel like I've come full circle since I think I've had this discussion already on this board. My clients that have Skystream 3.7 units are satisfied with the performance they have been getting. They were provided with realistic expections regarding energy production. Their turbines are working well. What other dealers/installers are doing I have no control over.
Do you have a turbine? Have you sold or installed any kind of wind turbine? If you feel so slighted then set things straight and promote your knowledge of small wind by producing a wind turbine for residential use, properly market it to people and install them in a manner that will provide reliable power for years to come. You and Truth should partner up. Constantly complaining does not acomplish anything.
Lets talk about putting solar panels in the shade. With the new micro inverters that will be the norm so I've heard.
Sheldon wrote: »
Perhaps @BILLF could give his company's website?
If he's getting such good results, there should be a whole lot of people who would want to do business with him.
failing that, a phone number, BBB reference or even mailing address?
BillF wrote: »
@Watt, @russ sorry for the mix up.
I 'm pretty well done debating. I have made honest statements and will stand by them. I will summarize now for all concerned especially you, Watt, since you came in the front door running and may have missed a few things. My opinions only...
Did SWWP make mistakes in product release and marketing? I blieve so.
Is SWWP trying to make amends and improve current and future products? Yes
Will a SS3.7 make 400kWh a month on a 33; tower? Only if the wind blows unobstructed and turbulent free at roughly 13mph 24 hours a day for a month. In other words...not likely.
How tall a tower should the SS3.7 be placed? My opinion: As tall as possible. I like anything >60'.
Am I an SWWP "insider"? LOL No
SS3.7 TSR? 1.25 during initial sync then variable up to 9.2 max.
WisJim wrote: »
In Wisconsin, you couldn't get a rebate on a system with a tower that short . Is the bottom of the Skystream rotor at least 30 feet above everything within 500 feet? That would mean that there s nothing within 500feet that is over maybe 4 or 5 feet high--no trees, no shrubs, no buildings, etc.
I would say that if a dealer installed it on a 45 foot tower, he is either incompetent or a crook or ignorant. It is worthwhile to get a professional site assessment by a certified assessor before investing in a wind turbine, but of course it is too late for that now, for you.
mdwind wrote: »
I asked another dealer for a quote for a 70 foot guyed tower and came back with $15k! The reason for the cost is the high cost of the pipes I was told. Is started researching by myself and found out that I could source all of the materials for less than 5K. Am I that off? What would be a good estimate for a 70 foot guyed tower with labor?
BB. wrote: »
With the wind ads... They seem to show about 3/4's of the installations as too low, too near obstructions and 90% of the shots are in clear weather / full sun (great for solar) but with the turbines obviously not spinning fast enough to generate any useful amount of power (even if the trees are blowing and the clothes are being ruffled).
None of the ads show exactly how much power is being generated (actual watts or cumulative kWhrs over time).
Most everything is useless relative numbers (power 40-90% of a home's needs).
They do talk about 12 MPH average wind for 400 kWhrs per month. If somebody averages 200 kWhrs per month over a 1 year period (scroll down to chart)--they should be thrilled.
Watt wrote: »
I'll have to agree with everything you've said by default. Nothing but disappointment from Skystream in my area. Nothing but bad business dealings all over after all, look at their installations. This dealer does business out of different town about 80 or 100 miles northeast. Check this one out. I was even on a hill about as tall as the house when I snapped this photo. This generator vibrates frantically with turbulence, but only, of course, with high winds. As you see there, hardly spins and not from lack of wind but from poor installation. Just over the trees. I bet this one will not be standing this time next year. Bearings will be destroyed.