What do I have?
pplwizard Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭✭
Hello everyone this is my first time on the Forum and I have a question but first some background. I have a Spartan 24 volt DC to AC inverter 8 wet cell lead acid batteries wired in two sets of 24 volts each and about 1500 watts of solar panels. I am running a small incubator Hatchery complete with incubators brooders and a real live refrigerator for me and some 12-volt DC lighting. All is working well I recently bought online from wish a supposedly 3000 watt 24 volt DC wind generator yet when it came there was no electronic markings on the controller or the wind generator whatsoever. I've hooked everything up correctly and even if I unplug the controller the wind generator is not spinning in the Wind. yet it spins freely by hand and I live on the top of a mountain and we have a lot of wind. the American flag which is made out of heavy cloth is virtually straight out. So my question is, is there a way to test my wind generator and the controller to verify if it in fact it is for a 24 volt system and if it is not and it's a 12-volt system what is the reaction I could expect to see when I hook it up to my 24 volt system.
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The turbine would ideally be mounted at least 30 feet above the ground, and at least 10 feet above any obstructions within ~500 feet... The turbine needs to be in "laminar" or very smooth airflow. If it is in turbulent air (buildings, trees, mountains, etc.), there is very little useful energy that can be harvested in turbulent wind.
Is there any brand/model on the turbine? Perhaps a couple pictures, and somebody can identify it?
I am not a big fan of wind... And many times, the home made DIY turbines are better than what you can buy--Plus you can make your own parts to repair them, when needed.
Here are some links to other sources of Wind Power information (including other forums that are more wind centric than our's):
Wind Power Links
www.otherpower.com (good forum for DIY Wind Power)
Hugh Piggott - Scoraig Wind Electric site for tons of info (from mike90045)
Scoraig Wind "Recipe Book" for DYI Turbines (from Chris Olson... From his 4/11/2013 post)
www.greenpowertalk.org (added from "russ"--Like here but more wind/less solar)
It is on a 30 foot pole on the top of a mound at the highest point on top of a mountain... No obstructions with 360 degrees clearance.
I have disconnected all three of the wires and have had 20mph winds today but the blades have not moved an inch.
How do I disengage the break?
Assuming fixed blades (no feathering/fixed based to hub)... The typical issues with a turbine not turning at all could be 1) blades installed "backwards" (wind is going "backwards" through air foils). -- Not likely, but a possibility.
2) Pole/yaw bearings not square to ground... Turbine not pointing into wind (if pole/yaw bearing is not square to ground, turbine will point out of wind).
3) Brake applied... If all you have is the 3 AC wires (plus possible ground), the only "brake" is when the output of the turbine is shorted (alternator has very high torque when feeding a dead short). If the alternator has in internal short, can also "brake" the turbine. However, if you can spin the blades by hand to a fair speed--Does not sound like any brake/shorted windings/shorted AC output is happening.
4) Poor design... Help, my wind turbine is not spinning, but I can turn by hand/with an electric drill/etc. is not an uncommon complaint here. If the turbine has never spun correctly, it usually requires re-engineering the unit (adding large plywood tail to point better into wind, check Alternator windings are Wye or Delta wound, etc.).
5) Poor siteing... Simply not enough wind, turbulent wind. Certainly looks like a good site, and if it is "miserably" windy there, generally a good start (looking for "flagging trees" is another good sign). Another trick is to go fly a kite--You want the kite to fly straight and level at "hub height" of the wind turbine... If the kite is buffeted by turbulence, then try to fly higher and find smooth air.
Pull the turbine back down... Get some Names/Part numbers from any components/alternator/casting/fairings/etc... And try to figure out the Rating of the alternator and compare that to the diameter/pitch of your present blades.
One thing to be very careful of... Horizontal Axis Wind Turbines can very easily overspeed and self destruct in moderate to heavy winds. Generally you want the controller/electric braking system (shorting the alternator, battery bank for sustained load, dump controller+dump loads, etc. (not all turbine installations use all of these pieces)). You don't want the turbine flying without some sort of RPM control.
Most smaller wind turbines are designed to be "permanently" connected to the battery bank to provide torque (from dumping current into the battery bank) and prevent overspeed. Some will have a simple shorting switch (possibly with a series power resistor) to draw high current from the alternator, provide high torque/resistance to spinning, and "stall" the blades.
That is probably about all I can do from here... I am certainly no-way a wind turbine expert by any means. (I do not sell, install, maintain turbines or solar power systems, I am simply a volunteer here with some engineering experience).
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Thank you so much for your help in this matter. From what you have said I believe the most likely culprit is you choice #3. Or poor design.
Again thank you so much, it was most helpful...
Now I have another question but I will start a new thread for that.
Take lots of pictures when the unit is down (or the "spares" kit). And hopefully we can be more helpful in the future (other than saying "it broke").