Portable generators

Im getting conflicting info on Google as to How many hours are  Big box store generators rated.. any have any idea??
Blue ridge mts. Renogy 400 watts manual tracking . Epever mppt 30. 2 GC 208 [email protected] volts 300 watt psw inverter. 2 kw genny. Iota 45.

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  • Blackda3Blackda3 Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭
    Hey Mountain Man - can I (we) please trouble you to add a bit more context or detail?
    1996 LX450; 2017 Aliner Explorer: 3 x 105 Ah AGMs; 2 x 140w Kyocera panels connected to a Bogart TriMetric and solar charge controller; Remote deployable system of two/three additional Kyocera panels connected to a Victron MPPT 100/50 Solar Charge Controller.
  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess is about 500 hours, what's required to pass the emissions testing.
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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  • BB.BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 29,235 admin
    edited May 15 #4
    The Honda e2000i should last 2,000 hours assuming oil changes to schedule and normal maintenance. 
    One member here had 6,000 hours,It smoked some and a bit harder to start (pretty much end of life). 
    I would go with 500 hours for a backup residential genset or an equivalent life of (500 hours x 35 mph fixed engine hours equivalent=) 17.500 "car equivalent" miles...
    So, not "that" long of life. 
    Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Dave AngeliniDave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 4,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buy it at costco! I saw them take back a 5 year old genset that had been in a boat on a lake. it was rusted but the guy had the original box and they credited his CC.
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  • mountainmanmountainman Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭
    edited May 15 #6
    I been comparing warranty 3 years on a non inverter 4000 watt champion. $300 at costco Between AC and battery charging I think I could put on more than 1000 hours in 3 years.
    Blue ridge mts. Renogy 400 watts manual tracking . Epever mppt 30. 2 GC 208 [email protected] volts 300 watt psw inverter. 2 kw genny. Iota 45.
  • mountainmanmountainman Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭
    edited May 16 #7
    So a Honda 4000 2 year warranty cost $1500 for 2000 hrs 75 cent per hour. Champion 500 hours 3 year warranty $300.  60 cent per hour. Then to factor in running time per gallon.? Champion 2.36 hrs per gal. 9 hours 50℅ load 3.8 gal tank. 847 gals in 2000 hrs.  Honda
    2.79 hrs per gal 50℅ load 17.6 hours runtime 6.3 gal tank. 717 gals. 130 gals at $2.50 325 dollars.conclusion 4 champions 1200 +325 extra fuel $1525.or 1 Honda for $1525.? Or try costco like @Dave Angelini said keep taking them back till I get ran off!!
    Blue ridge mts. Renogy 400 watts manual tracking . Epever mppt 30. 2 GC 208 [email protected] volts 300 watt psw inverter. 2 kw genny. Iota 45.
  • Dave AngeliniDave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 4,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You could go solar, a few of us have. No genset here :)
    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Mountains near Mariposa/Yosemite CA
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  • MrM1MrM1 Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭✭
    If you don't need 240v u could look at Harbor Freight. I have been real happy with their 3500 watt inverter generator that is a knock off of a Honda. I think Honda actually even tried to sue them over it but got no traction. U can get it one on sale for around $650
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  • mountainmanmountainman Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭
    I only need 120 volts. generator is for AC.  I have a small solar array for lights rv water pump and TV. I'll check into harbor freight.
    Hopefully in the next couple years I will have saved enough for sewer. Then I can get on grid.
    Blue ridge mts. Renogy 400 watts manual tracking . Epever mppt 30. 2 GC 208 [email protected] volts 300 watt psw inverter. 2 kw genny. Iota 45.
  • mike95490mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HF actually got a pretty favorable review at consumer reports, for their inverter generators
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

  • mcgivormcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 13 #12
    Liam said:
    Have you already purchased this model or are you considering purchasing it? If you still choose, what about these options https://generatoron.org/best-diesel-generator/ ? Now I choose for myself a new generator, I think, to buy for my boat Sigma JDP-7000 LDE.
    The Sigma is identical to various generators with different names at widely different prices, and control/outlet features. They are often store name branded as well, the most expensive I've seen has a Hyundai name, about twice the price of the "Mitsu" name I purchased. Only difference is the Mitsu has a digital hour/voltage frequency meter as opposed to analog, both have AGS capabilities.

    They are actually quite good, although supposedly silent they are far from that, but probably better than an open frame. The one I have is rated 6.5KW, it's primary use is for MIG welding, it responds well to voltage sags having electronic voltage control, it is also brushless, some may differ, it is also a single phase 230V 50Hz unit, the frequency is very stable when running properly.

    After 100 hours it began running rough with frequency drop, i first checked valve clearances, they were perfect, then removed the injector, cleaned the tip with a brass brush, it ran perfect again, a half hour job for the mechanically inclined.  Currently it's approaching 200 hours now and beginning to display the same frequency drift, this may be in part to the intermittent loading associated with welding. Perhaps at higher constant loads it would run cleane. Diesel engines are inherently designed to work at higher loads, at least old technology mechanical types, but for less than $800 US it has been money well spent. The engine is a Chinese Yanmar clone, parts are widely available on Aliexpress at reasonable prices 

    Only other problem I had was rodents entered the housing and stripped some of the foam sound deadening material, which could be drawn into the cooling fan thus blocking the engine cooling fins resulting in overheating. Make it rodent proof as possible, stainless steel mosquito mesh works well, there are some places around the exhust and oil drain areas where gaps are large enough, as well as underneath, there are a couple of vents.

    Rodent proofing is something not strictly related to the tropics, my current location, even in Canada rats were attracted to the warmth block heaters provided in the winter.
    1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery bank 
    Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah FLA 24V nominal used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
    5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.
  • t00lst00ls Solar Expert Posts: 212 ✭✭✭
    remember...you get what you pay for...very true for generators

    right now honda makes the best inverter generator....in a close second is champion and yamaha (dont quote me on the yamaha)

    I would not in this day and age use a conventional generator that uses  capacitors for voltage regulation
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