Portable Genset problems

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dstephen
dstephen Registered Users Posts: 2
I have tow gensets with problems;
1. a Makita EG322A Genset 2.4KVA with Brush-type AVR starts up fine. but smoke emanates from the alternator soon after starting. voltage measured is 240VAC (ok). i tested AVR is fine. I tested stator winding via output and ohms is 0.5 ohms so i suspect the stator is short circuited. No replacement available in my country Will a Powermate 2KW alternator be compatible as replacement of a Makita 2.4KVA alternator? 

2. A 2KW Yamaha genset starts but chokes and stops within seconds. the engine is fine. Can i assume that no small dc current is fed back to the spark plug to ensure that the engine continuously combusts fuel to drive the alternator?

suggestions welcome.

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  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,439 admin
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    For the first genset... Is there a place that rebuilds/rewinds car/truck alternators in your area?

    For the second, does your geset have an low oil sensor? Those have been known to have problems and kill the spark.

    For the Yamaha, do you have more information (model number)? There are a few different models that are quite different (from what I could find).

    -Bill
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  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
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    With regards to the Yahama, the carburetor could be in need of a cleaning, from the description, the emulicification tube could be blocked, this tube is above the main jet, it is a tube which has several small holes along its length, if these very small holes become pluged, an over rich mixture could occur, this is very common on an engine that has not been run frequently and would result in a start but no run situation as you have explained.
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  • westbranch
    westbranch Solar Expert Posts: 5,183 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017 #4
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    Before pulling it apart remove the old (current) fuel from the  tank and get some FRESH premium gasoline, add the appropriate amount of SEAFOAM fuel stabilizer / conditioner to it, start the unit a few times ensure the new fuel has made it into the carb, then let it sit a few hours or overnight, repeat, if still stalling , a couple more times before pulling it all apart... I use SEAFOAM in my Yamaha outboard, it sits all winter and starts on the second pull, with old gas ..... every year! 
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  • jonr
    jonr Solar Expert Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
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    As I've gotten more and more tired of carb clogging problems, I increasingly install a valve in the fuel line and run until the engine dies.  Seems to work well.  On some not-entirely-ethanol-safe fuel systems, I go even further (lines or lines and tank).

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  • BB.
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    edited August 2017 #6
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    Some of the small gensets like the eu2000i have a carburetor drain screw.

    I like to run the engines dry too. And use a fuel preservative. Seafoam is reputed to be the best and good at dissolving old varnish.

    Bill
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  • jonr
    jonr Solar Expert Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017 #7
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    It's unclear to me that Seafoam should be used with E10 gas - because it adds more alcohol.   So I use STA-Bil.      I'm also going to start buying ethanol free gas for some things.

    http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html
    https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/34_11/features/Ethanol-Gas-Additives_5692-1.html
    "Avoid alcohol-based treatments; they are not for E-10."


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  • dstephen
    dstephen Registered Users Posts: 2
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    all, the yamaha 2kW genset is a model EF2600FW (230V 50Hz - AUstralia standard). I have taken note of all comments in reply to my post. thankyou all for your helpful comments. regards. Dstephen.
  • DanS26
    DanS26 Solar Expert Posts: 266 ✭✭✭
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    Some of the smaller engines from Honda, Yamaha, Subaru have "hidden" in line fuel filters that are easily clogged.  These filters are very hard to find and the only way to know is to remove and examine the entire fuel line from tank to carb.

    Usual symptom is engine starts fine but then shudders and then fails to run properly or not at all.  Just a cheap 50 cent fix maybe all you need.
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