Schneider conext XW 6848

Glenn
Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
in Solar Beginners Corner #1
I am in a Fifth Wheel Teton camper. We need 240v do to our mini split. Have 21kwh of leaf battery now. Looking at inverters. Soal afterwards. Been looking at the XW units and they look like they will work. Lots use the Victron units but have to run dual or inverter + autotransformer. Need in 6k range so seems good fit. Your thoughts.
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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2
    The xw is good,  And if you get a park with power or a generator, it will utilize the internal transfer switch and charger
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #3
    Are they very difficult to set up.

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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #4
    If you know the basic rules of electricity and UNDERSTAND Power, Voltage, Amps, Resistance and how they work, you can program the XW gear.   You will need a SCP or Gateway to interface to it.
    https://solar.schneider-electric.com/product/conext-system-control-panel-scp/
    https://solar.schneider-electric.com/product/conext-gateway/

    You will need to grasp how to calculate 80% of your generator's output power and enter that as amps @ 240V into the inverter memory.
    I can give you examples of how I did it with my gear.   Much easier if you have a generator with 240VAC output, if limited to 120vac, you have to reconfigure (cripple) the inverter to be only 120V or use a efficient step up autotransformer to get your 120V generator up to 240V (which I do with a 100# transformer and a honda eu2000)
    At least the big XW inverters are efficient when idle.


    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #5
    thank you but no on board generator.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #6
    question, dows the combox support Chromebook. Mentions windows and android.
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  • Dave Angelini
    Dave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 6,917 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #7
    Combox is obsolete and on the non support list at Schneider. You want to look at getting the conext gateway and yes it does support android.
    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
       htps://offgridsolar1.com/
    E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net

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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #8
    I was reading on this forum and saw a lot of problems posted with the Gateway. Have these problems been fixed? Also I am more interested if it supports a Chromebook. I have no windows computers, just android and Chromebook.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
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    Oh just reading owners manual. Supports goggle chrome. So Chromebook good.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #10
    I was looking at the mini panel for it. From pictures it appears to not have a top so the XW has to bolt to it.I only have 37" head room in camper storage.It figures up to 40". I am considering the E-Panel from Midnite. I could mount it it the side.I don't have to have one but I really like the bypass built in them.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #11
    sucks, it doesn't have a top either.
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  • Dave Angelini
    Dave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 6,917 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #12
    Take a look at the CSW from Schneider. It is smaller and might work with the CSW Power distribution panels. The gateway has had 7 firmware changes released in the last 18 months. Most of the people with problems were firmware related. Sometime firmware is not an easy thing to change.

    Also remember that installing a large inverter in a small space is not a good thing. XW and CSW are UL listed but not listed for mobile installation.
    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
       htps://offgridsolar1.com/
    E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net

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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #13
    True but everybody is doing it with no issuses. Seem as many as 3 large inverters in one from the factory. I can fab a top for the box. 
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #14
    I would have to have 2 of those CSW units.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #15
    can't even find a CSW unit now
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #16
    Think you meant Conext SW. Yes, I would need two of those and that what I trying not ot do.
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #17
    Can the XW be used laying down or sideways? have more room like that. 
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #18
    Actually upside down it fits together.
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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #19
    Sideways, you loose the thermal chimney arrangement and may only be able to get half power even with it's internal fans.

    But I see what you want, you need 240V for the air con.   Could a Euro 50hz 230V inverter (non-split phase) run it ?
    and then use another inverter for your 120V needs ?   ( dang, now 2 inverters again )
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,

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  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,637 admin
    #20
    It was a sad day when Sanyo was purchased by Panasonic and the 120 VAC mini-spit line was dumped...

    Home Depot does list some 115 VAC mini splits.

    https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Ductless-Mini-Splits/115v/N-5yc1vZc4m1Z1z195r9

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #21
    Actually I have 2 12k mini splits. one is 240 due to having to use a cassette in bedroom. There are no 120v cassettes. Oh I will just not put it together and fab a top for it. Easy done. 
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  • Dave Angelini
    Dave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 6,917 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    #22
    BB. said:
    It was a sad day when Sanyo was purchased by Panasonic and the 120 VAC mini-spit line was dumped...

    Home Depot does list some 115 VAC mini splits.

    https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heating-Venting-Cooling-Ductless-Mini-Splits/115v/N-5yc1vZc4m1Z1z195r9

    -Bill
    sort of sad...Panasonic has improved their splits alot more than the Sanyo I bought in 2006. It still works though B)
    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
       htps://offgridsolar1.com/
    E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net

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  • Glenn
    Glenn Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭
    #23
    I was looking at the specs on the mini panel and the standard panel, Saw no reference to DC shunts. Do they have them.
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