battery maintainer.
Off grid, all solar, passive and active (winter wood heat supplements) PV DHW.
Array 1-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Array 2-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Well array 780w, 6 Kyocera 130 w with Grundfos sqflex 11 and cu200 to elevated storage, ( 2- 330 g tanks,) no battery storage at well
10 24 volt Battle Born Lithiums
Outback Flexpower Two, VFXR 3524A 7kw
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So I guess what I am asking is, what is a clever way to keep an unused 510 AH 24 volt battery charged off of an existing 24 volt off grid system?
Off grid, all solar, passive and active (winter wood heat supplements) PV DHW.
Array 1-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Array 2-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Well array 780w, 6 Kyocera 130 w with Grundfos sqflex 11 and cu200 to elevated storage, ( 2- 330 g tanks,) no battery storage at well
10 24 volt Battle Born Lithiums
Outback Flexpower Two, VFXR 3524A 7kw
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Some suggestions (as always, I am NOT a battery engineer).
Plan on at least 1% to 2% rate of charge for an old/just about ready to recycle/ battery bank. Newer/batteries in good condition will have a float charge less than that.
If your float is 2% or greater--Time to recycle the battery. Lots of wasted energy, and the battery runs the risk of "interesting" self destructive events (overheating, etc.). The higher the float current (>2%, the more chance of a "bad" event).
The other thing to look at is how much electricity is this costing (either off grid charging, or from your utilty)... A 2% rate of charge:- 27.0 Volts float * 510 AH * 0.02 rate of charge (worst case) = ~275 Watt (DC) load to float (worst case assumptions)
- 275 Watts * 24 hours per day = 6,600 WH per day (6.6 kWH per day)
Anyway--My suggestion is to measure the steady state charging current (and voltage) and/or put a kill-a-watt meter on the AC float charger and see how much it really draws... If it is "significant (approaching 1% or higher float current)--Probably not worth keeping around.
Another way is to charge to "Full", then let it sit and check the SG (say once per week). And when it gets down to 75% SoC--Recharge. A "good battery FLA bank" should go 1 month between charges... That amount of energy would be:- 14.5 volts charging * 510 AH * 25% depth of discharge = 1,849 WH = 1.85 kWH (per month?)
Anyway, some "math" to try and get data to make your decision.
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Thank you gentlemen. BB, that is a very helpful thought process.
Off grid, all solar, passive and active (winter wood heat supplements) PV DHW.
Array 1-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Array 2-- 12 Sunpower 250, Outback FM 100 3kw
Well array 780w, 6 Kyocera 130 w with Grundfos sqflex 11 and cu200 to elevated storage, ( 2- 330 g tanks,) no battery storage at well
10 24 volt Battle Born Lithiums
Outback Flexpower Two, VFXR 3524A 7kw
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