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Nixx
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I need to run a 23'' led tv which consumes 35 watts and set top box which consumes 10 watts and a ceiling fan which consumes 50 watts. Which solar panels , battery of what ah I need to buy ... Is there anything else I need to buy .... When sun goes I need a back up of 3 hrs .... So do specify the needed things... As I m new to solar .... Any advise will be appreciated.....
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Are you living in a camper on a Baja beach ? When I was I had three 100 watt panels in parallel a 30 amp controller and Two 12 volt batteries in parallel. You will probably need more to go the 3 hours so just keep adding till there's enough.
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Depending on location, I'd agree with @billybob9, 2-3 x 100w panels and 30a charge controller. I'd use a pair of 6v 225ah golf cart batteries. You'll also likely need an inverter - this one is nice:
https://www.solar-electric.com/morningstar-si-300-115v-ul-inverter.html
Cheaper inverters available at hardware stores etc tend to be modified sine (stepped square) wave types, which can make loads like yours run hot or possibly not at all.Off-grid.
Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter -
Assuming you are:
- Mumbai India
- 5 hours of TV+Set top box+Fan
- 2 days of "no sun operation"
- 50% maximum battery bank discharge (for longer life)
- Assume flooded cell batteries
- (35 watts TV + 10 Watts set top box + 50 Watt fan) * 5 hours a day (or evening) = 475 Watt hours per day
- 475 WH per day * 1/0.85 AC inverter eff * 2 days of storage * 1/0.50 max battery discharge * 1/12 volt battery bank = 186 AH @ 12 volt battery bank
For sizing the solar array, we do two calculations. The first based on the size of the battery bank (larger battery bank needs more charging current). The second based on your daily load and hours of sun per day.
For charging, suggest 5% for emergency/weekend sunny seasonal power, 10%-13%-20% for daily year round loads of charging current. An example of 10% rate of charge:- 200 AH * 14.5 volts charging * 1/0.77 solar panel+controller deratings * 0.10 rate of charge = 377 Watt array nominal (10% rate of charge)
http://www.solarelectricityhandbook.com/solar-irradiance.htmlMumbai
Measured in kWh/m2/day onto a solar panel set at a 71° angle from vertical:
Average Solar Insolation figures
(For best year-round performance)
Good amounts of sun... The least amount of sun you get is August at 4.85 hours of sun average (long term daily average for August):Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun 6.54
7.17
7.42
7.14
6.69
5.63
Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 4.94
4.85
5.69
6.29
6.46
5.98
- 475 Watt*Hours per day load * 1/0.52 off grid solar AC system efficiency * 1/4.85 hours of sun per day (Aug) = 188 Watt array minimum
- 188 Watt "break even August" array * 1/0.50 base load factor = 376 Watt array suggested for loads and sun
Details matter--The above sizes the battery bank and solar array... You need to decide if the assumptions here are correct for your needs. And then you need to look at hardware. What batteries are actually available (good price/availability), what size solar panels (a single ~377 Watt panel, or 3x 120 Watt panels, etc.) and what solar charge controller type (MPPT or PWM) will work.
You should do several paper designs and see what combination of panels+charge controllers make sense (377 Watt panel is "cheap" but MPPT controllers are expensive; 3x 120 Watt panels are more expensive, but PWM charge controllers are cheaper).
Anyway--Just a quick run at the assumptions you need to make and the math to figure out the supporting hardware. The battery bank is the "heart" of your system. And the solar array (plus how you run your loads) can make your battery bank "happy" or "murder it".
-Bill
Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
Nixx said:I need to run a 23'' led tv which consumes 35 watts and set top box which consumes 10 watts and a ceiling fan which consumes 50 watts. Which solar panels , battery of what ah I need to buy ... Is there anything else I need to buy .... When sun goes I need a back up of 3 hrs
As for something else to buy, you will want an inverter to make AC electric to run these items unless they are 12 volt DC?
Basic math is that each hour the tv consumes 35 watts, the 'top box' consumes 10 watts and the ceiling fan 50 watts. SO 3 x35 = 105 watt hours for the TV, 30 watt hours for the 'Top Box' and 150 watt hours for the ceiling fan for a total of 285 watt hours, 2 golf cart batteries store about 210 amps at 12 volts, so 2 store about 2.5 kwhs (2500 watt hours) of which 1.2 is useable though you may want to save some extra for rainy days and worry about recharging them.
You would normally want enough solar array to charge the batteries at a 10% rate if you will be using them daily. That would be 21 amps at charging for 12 volts. Roughly 400 watts.
I had started this, then lost my connection and posted this morning. Since then Bill, who can look into you ISP posted you were from India. You have the advantage of having long days. You might use slightly less charging with regular long days.
Home system 4000 watt (Evergreen) array standing, with 2 Midnite Classic Lites, Midnite E-panel, Magnum MS4024, Prosine 1800(now backup) and Exeltech 1100(former backup...lol), 660 ah 24v Forklift battery(now 10 years old). Off grid for 20 years (if I include 8 months on a bicycle).
- Assorted other systems, pieces and to many panels in the closet to not do more projects. -
Keep in mind that things like the Set Top Box and likely the TV will consume power 24/7 if not disconnected from the power source. You can get a power strip and turn off the power when not in use.
2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric, 460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.
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