New Rich Text Editor in Beta (from our forum software supplier "Vanilla")

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  • Dave Angelini
    Dave Angelini Solar Expert Posts: 6,728 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank-you! and thanks for the rain this season, 46+ inches and pouring right now😎

    "we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
       htps://offgridsolar1.com/
    E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net

  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    We have gotten a fair amount of rain this season, but much has gone north and south of us (right on the rain path dividing line on the San Francisco Peninsula).

    Between mudslides and lots of grass/growth that will turn brown in the California summer (fire hazard)--More yet to come... Fingers crossed.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin
    edited February 2019 #64

    An update on the "corrupted Radon" Thread.

    At this point, Vanilla is leaving the thread in the nuked state so that they can better trace and understand what is causing (this second) thread problem and find/fix the root cause for the rendering issue.

    They hope to have the thread back working next week.

    If anyone wants to continue the Radon discussion now, feel free to start a new thread to continue.

    https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/354319/solar-system-design-for-home-radon-fan-remediation-system-off-grid#latest (nuked thread).

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Vic
    Vic Solar Expert Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭✭

    Hi Bill,  Thanks for all that you are doing in getting the new Text Editor improved.

    Earlier,  you had mentioned that some of us always get a Double-spaced line for each Enter.   With Win7 and IE 11.xx this has been the case on two different computers.

    With the earlier Editor version,  one could get the Editor to create a single space (to separate Paragraphs),  by using Shift & Enter.    This trick does not any longer work in the new Editor  --  notta biggie,  perhaps this may be why some members appear to use no separation at all (no Enters),   27 topics  all in one 1500 word Paragraph (?).

    FWIW,  probably not worth any time to try to fix it.    Thanks for all that you do Bill !   Vic

    Off Grid - Two systems -- 4 SW+ 5548 Inverters, Surrette 4KS25 1280 AH X2@48V, 11.1 KW STC PV, 4X MidNite Classic 150 w/ WBjrs, Beta KID on S-530s, MX-60s, MN Bkrs/Boxes.  25 KVA Polyphase Kubota diesel,  Honda Eu6500isa,  Eu3000is-es, Eu2000,  Eu1000 gensets.  Thanks Wind-Sun for this great Forum.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Thank you Vic,

    I will forward that on to Vanilla support.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Vic,

    They agree that the shift+enter behaviour is an issue:

    Andrew Dodson said:

    Hey Bill, 

    I'm going to make a ticket for this. I talked to a few devs and we agree that shift+enter should bring you down just a single line. I'll see if we can get that implemented.  

    Thanks!-

    Thank you Vic,

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • mcgivor
    mcgivor Solar Expert Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Bill

    Attempted to attach a photo to a post, the wheel of death is all that happened, draft saved message appeared, after waiting some time pressed cancel, nothing happened, had to page back to escape, clicked the draft button got the " something has gone wrong " message.

    Ivor

    1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Battery Bodyguard BMS 
    Second system 1890W  3 × 300W No name brand poly, 3×330 Sunsolar Poly panels, Morningstar TS 60 PWM controller, no name 2000W inverter 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Daly BMS, used for water pumping and day time air conditioning.  
    5Kw Yanmar clone single cylinder air cooled diesel generator for rare emergency charging and welding.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Looks like we have another "nuked" thread.

    I am reporting to support now.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    All the broken threads should be working again... Except the "Radon" one.

    https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/354319/solar-system-design-for-home-radon-fan-remediation-system-off-grid#latest

    I think they are letting the developers work on the problem before they fix.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Vic
    Vic Solar Expert Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭✭

    This has been reported,   but ...

    Cannot Edit a post. The cursor changed to the Hand when over the gear symbol,   but clicking on the gear does absolutely nothing.

    Windoze 7 Home Premium,  IE11  on a Toshiba Laptop.   FWIW.   Not a huge deal,   but,   we are not the most-accurate touch typer.   Thanks,     Vic

    Off Grid - Two systems -- 4 SW+ 5548 Inverters, Surrette 4KS25 1280 AH X2@48V, 11.1 KW STC PV, 4X MidNite Classic 150 w/ WBjrs, Beta KID on S-530s, MX-60s, MN Bkrs/Boxes.  25 KVA Polyphase Kubota diesel,  Honda Eu6500isa,  Eu3000is-es, Eu2000,  Eu1000 gensets.  Thanks Wind-Sun for this great Forum.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Vic,

    I have forwarded your post to Vanilla--Just to be sure it is logged and they have all the information available.

    And, by the way, the Radon thread is still (mostly) DOA. I have asked Vanilla (again) about it (they say it is fixed).

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Vic,

    This was support's reply:

    It sounds like the user doesn't have javascript enabled. Have them double check the settings on their browser (I believe it's called 'Active Scripting' in IE11) and make sure that nothing has been set to block Javascript.  

    You have Java Script disabled (like using "StopScript" with Firefox)?

     -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Vic
    Vic Solar Expert Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭✭

    Hi Bill,

    Thanks for that info.   YES,  IIRC,   JavaScript had been judged by EXPERTS,   IIRC,  JavaScript had been judged as being a security threat,   as it was no longer supported by its originator,   or similar.  So we did send it off to the Dustbin.

    Perhaps it is needed on this site to support multiple types of user devices   ...

    The only editorial comment,   might be,   that all of the other Forums,  web sites,  etc still seem to function well   ...

    I do not know enough to know,   but  will just need to be a bit more careful when composing Comments/Discussions,   such that no Editing is really required.

    Thank you very much,   Bill.         Vic

    Off Grid - Two systems -- 4 SW+ 5548 Inverters, Surrette 4KS25 1280 AH X2@48V, 11.1 KW STC PV, 4X MidNite Classic 150 w/ WBjrs, Beta KID on S-530s, MX-60s, MN Bkrs/Boxes.  25 KVA Polyphase Kubota diesel,  Honda Eu6500isa,  Eu3000is-es, Eu2000,  Eu1000 gensets.  Thanks Wind-Sun for this great Forum.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Vic (and others that block Javascript on our site),

    If you need a post deleted or edited, just make another post and tell me what you need (edit or delete post #xx). And I will take care of it.

    With Firefox, I can use the NoScript add-on and disable JS everywhere except fo the few websites I have to use it (a few banks, here, etc.)...

    But other browsers may not have the site by site block/allow option.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Vic
    Vic Solar Expert Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭✭

    Just noticed     a new thing,   that probably is due to my computer setup,   but for about 10 seconds prior to the Saving Draft message appears,   this computer just freezes  --   no scrolling,   no typed  characters appear,   just nothing for about 10 seconds prior to the Draft message.

    THis may  be similar to the situation where one cannot Post a Comment,   and the Post button is grayed-out  ...   perhaps,   FWIW,   Thanks,   Vic

    Off Grid - Two systems -- 4 SW+ 5548 Inverters, Surrette 4KS25 1280 AH X2@48V, 11.1 KW STC PV, 4X MidNite Classic 150 w/ WBjrs, Beta KID on S-530s, MX-60s, MN Bkrs/Boxes.  25 KVA Polyphase Kubota diesel,  Honda Eu6500isa,  Eu3000is-es, Eu2000,  Eu1000 gensets.  Thanks Wind-Sun for this great Forum.
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    I am seeing the same thing as Vic same screen freeze

    Apple iPad MC707LL/A iOS 9.3.5 (13G36)

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    BB,

    something is wrong, upload 1caracter at a time several seconds a word, no edit....david

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Everything seems to be OK for me... Just running on Comcast cable modem and a Chromebook over home wifi (yea--I got tired of the Microsoft windows updates every week or two just for web browsing and having to "fix" weird stuff once in a while).

    Using a website checker:

    https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/forum.solar-electric.com.html

    And there is a history/outage weblink for our forum:

    https://status.vanillaforums.com/

    Everything seems to be OK.

    Is the time and date correct on your computer? We are (recently, the last few months) using HTTPS secure connections... If the date/year is way off, it can invalidate security certificates (does not sound like your issue).

    And the old reboot your computer (modem, router) thing... I had to reboot my Verizon Cell phone (Android) a few days ago because of very slow/spotty access. And a friend just had to do his yesterday (both are "smart" Android phones, different mfgs and ages).

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    I mostly using iPad, probably my isp, dead slow. Still doing it , only transmitting one character at a time, I stop typing ipad continues, loosing stuff.....lowest you isp response time. I will check later from better locations

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    Strange...NO edit but page load time ok , MidNite pages ok

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    You can also try some version of speedtest:

    https://www.speedtest.net/

    11 msec ping, 70 MBit/Sec download, 6 MBit/Sec upload on my cheap Chromebook.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    Vanilla does use JavaScript for the "fancy editor"...

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if it's something to do with auto-saving drafts over funky connections? Maybe waiting for a dropped confirmation packet or something.

    Off-grid.  
    Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
    Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    The few times I have have had autosave fail, I generally get a big warning message that the "Cloudflair" network connection has failed (or similar error messages) and try again in a few minutes. I don't think I have seen any "simple" slowdowns (that I recall).

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    BB,

    Im logged In at Starbucks , still one character a time time, deleted all saved in iOS, reboot, same issue, no slow web here, several seconds to enter each character, annoying, page load speed ok.

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    OK, Will ask Vanilla support...

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Tecnodave
    Tecnodave Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭

    Test, just watched multiple videos on utube, no pauses, still1 character at a time

    2 Classic 150, 2 Kid, 5 arrays 7.5 kw total  2ea.  2S6P Sharp NE-170/NE-165, 1ea. 12P Sanyo HIT 200,  2ea. 4/6P Sanyo HIT 200, MagnaSine MS4024AE, Exeltech XP-1100,  2 Banks L-16 battery, Rolls-Surette S-530 and Interstate Traction, Shunts with whizbangJr and Bogart Tri-Metric, iCharger i208B  dc-dc buck/boost converter with BMS for small form lithium 8S 16650 or LiFePO4,
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    OK David, I have already filed the report.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    This is a reply from Andrew at Vanilla about his IPad issues, and regarding Vic's concerns about JavaScript security (with a further follow up):

    Andrew said:

    Hey Bill, 

    You should be getting a message from Paul, our security officer today about the Javascript concerns your user brought up. Don't hesitate to bring up any security questions to either Paul or myself - Vanilla takes all those concerns pretty seriously and everyone works to make sure our software stays secure.  

    As for Tecnodave's issue with the iPad, right off the bat, I want to note that iOS version 9.3.5 came out three years ago. I highly recommend that they update their software so their browser is completely up-to-date against possible security issues.  

    Then, if the issue continues, I would have them completely close Safari (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201330) and make sure they clear all data within the browser (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201265). Then be sure they don't have a lot of tabs open or other applications running, as all of those could potentially slow performance in the browser.  

    I hope that helps!  

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,431 admin

    And here is Vanilla's Information Security Officer's comment on JavaScript:

    Hi Bill

    Thanks for passing on your users concerns RE Javascript - I hope the below helps out. 

    JavaScript is very widely used (depending on the source, probably the most widely used language in the world) and is used across all major web companies (Google, Facebook, New York Times, Amazon, etc). The original developer (Brendan Eich) has moved on from Mozilla to a new startup (Brave), but I wouldn't say it's a fair characterization to say that Javascript is "no longer supported by its originators". 

    Having said that, as with most web technologies JavaScript does introduce certain security risks - Vanilla follows best practices to mitigate these risks, including running a Hacker One campaign, coding with security front of mind, and using up to date frameworks. In terms of functionality, the majority of Vanilla works with Javascript disabled - however, as your user identified there is some functionality dependent on JavaScript. 

    Based on our experience, more than 99% of users have Javascript enabled, and therefore we currently do not have any plans to re-implement these features without using javascript. My advice to the user would be to enable Javascript when he needs to edit a post, or to request an edit by another user (as you suggested in your thread). 

    I hope that all makes sense! If you would like to read more on Javascript, you can check out the following:

    https://www.howtogeek.com/138865/htg-explains-should-you-disable-javascript/

    -- 

    Paul Johnston

    Information Security Officer

    vanillaforums.com

    There are other web sites that that are not "safe" or "reliable" when using JavaScript... And when I can, I use Firefox and NoScript to only allow JavaScript on a few websites that need it (here, my bank, etc.).

    And there are slow mobile connections (and devices) where blocking JavaScripts helps speed things up...

    Day to Day, I am mostly using Chrome browser on a Chromebook--I am getting tired of being the IT Admin for everyone that is running Windows. And, so far, I cannot run Firefox and NoScript on it.

    -Bill

    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset