Conext Bridge for XW+ Li-ions from LG and Hoppecke announced for 2nd half 2017

The Li-ions and the XW+ conext bridge will be available in the second half of 2017. They will be available to order as a complete system from one source from many dealers.


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For testing one wants a nice set of wheels under the battery and acess to the great outdoors!
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Generic Li-Ions are pretty good at low temps. My costco acurite weather station reccomends them below -4F/-20C over Alkaline.
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Conext XW6848 with PDP, SCP, 80/600 controller, 60/150 controller and Conext battery monitor
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Hard to beat lead acid when the design and user are right. See #2 in this thread.
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Cost effective, high capacity, low maintenance storage will be the nut to crack over the next 7 to 10 years. Batteries are the most expensive part of a well designed off grid system and the next generation Li-I/AGM will have to be cost competitive and as reliable/durable/forgiving as the FLAs'.
With a large off grid system like ours, replacement FLAs' cost about $22 k every 5 to 7 years compared to having grid power bills for the same period which would run about $24 k.
Interesting to see if the newer technology can do it reliably cheaper.
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With the new Schneider install, I probably have more surge than I need. Also, with the new high efficiency variable speed HVAC compressors, air handlers and appliances power consumption has been dramatically reduced too extending storage capacity.
Woke this morning to snow here on our desert mountains. Beautiful contrast with the red rhyolite bluffs and cactus dusted with snow. Must say ranch is especially beautiful. Big 5x5 buck wandered through with a few does.
Already brushed the panels three times. Temperature coming up.
Sure enjoy following your interesting development projects.
Dave, hope this finds you and everyone enjoying a great Christmas.
We are off to the national park to see the waterfalls. We are at near 20" of rain and that should be nice against the snow.
Back to tech on your post. The XW's are awesome at surge! However, it is the marriage between the battery that enables the listed specifications.
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One OEM manufacturer building a turnkey integrated plug and play scaleable off grid power delivery system which can be stacked to deliver larger scaleable capacities. . .!
Hope I can afford one someday.
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Future ahead!
I was glad that Schneider did not go that route for now and is waiting to see if there really is a market for this concept yet.
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For larger applications like ours, I believe "All in One" systems are still many years off. Initially the new bundled smaller systems will probably be aimed at say, 2-4 kw off grid set ups. That's good because in the process these smaller system will increase acceptance for off grid living by reducing installation work, system programming complexity and maintenance which many people find intimidating when they consider making the commitment to build off grid. Larger Market.
As integrated "All In One" storage technology and its control become more mainstream permitting larger integrated applications, I believe Solar OEMs' will cautiously enter this market segment driven by people's ever increasing lifestyle expectations. There will always be a place for small to medium sized out of the box off grid starter systems as well as larger more customized flexible/hybrid ones like ours.
Where I started and where I ended up are good examples. Few people were willing to try what we did in 2005. Since then, most costs have declined except for storage (batteries). Improved appliance power consumption, dramatic increases in our rural grid costs all have helped balance the cost of storage somewhat. Whoever solves this one will be retiring early.
As always, fun to watch the maturation of solar technology in leaps and bounds.
Looks like you're definitely on the leading edge Dave!
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Pretty blown away by this storage, If I am right it should not be as expensive as I thought at first.
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SolarEdge and Fronius, for example, offer multiport inverters that work with high-voltage lithium-ion batteries such as Tesla’s Powerwall. In these systems, the PV array and battery both connect to the dc bus of a transformerless inverter, which is very efficient but provides modest surge capacity for motor loads. By contrast, Adara Power and sonnen have designed their energy storage systems around transformer-based inverter platforms (from Schneider Electric and Outback Power, respectively) that use a 48 V nominal battery bank. While these systems are somewhat less efficient, they offer excellent surge ratings for backup loads, which is critical to customers who need to run essential equipment—say, a well pump—during a power outage. To add solar to a sonnenBatterie, integrators must ac-couple an interactive inverter with the battery-based inverter via the ac bus in the backup-loads subpanel. The Adara Power system accommodates both ac- and dc-coupled configurations. The former is most cost-effective in retrofit applications where an existing interactive inverter can process PV power. The latter uses a 600 V Schneider charge controller to integrate the PV power source. SMA, meanwhile, is releasing a new Sunny Boy Storage inverter—designed especially with the retrofit market in mind—that will allow integrators to ac-couple solar with a high-voltage battery.
As the market matures, we will likely see increased demand for something parallel to an Energy Star rating method targeting home energy storage systems. This may be a long time coming in practice, however, based on the slow progress in the multiyear international efforts to develop comparative tests and ratings for PV modules. In the meanwhile, system integrators and developers may want to take vendors’ round-trip efficiency claims with a grain of salt. Self-reported efficiency values are suspect, if only because they likely reflect best-case scenarios. In the real world, inverter loading and battery cycling is highly variable, which could reduce round-trip system efficiency in the field.
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