Solar charging series or parallel for MPPT to 12v battery
gqroot
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Hi folks,
I am building a off-grid system to power up 12 watt device running 24 hrs. The build of materials below. I am wondering if I should get a pair of 12v 100 watt panel in series or in parallel to charge my 12v battery. I get about 2 hours of sun and trying to spec it for 2 days without the sun. Is it better to have the solar panel in series or in parallel when the cable run is 25 feet?
1x MorningStar SunSaver SS-MPPT-15L Charge Controller
1x Concorde PVX-340T Sun Xtender Solar Battery 12V
2x 12v 100w Solar Panel
Thanks in advance!
I am building a off-grid system to power up 12 watt device running 24 hrs. The build of materials below. I am wondering if I should get a pair of 12v 100 watt panel in series or in parallel to charge my 12v battery. I get about 2 hours of sun and trying to spec it for 2 days without the sun. Is it better to have the solar panel in series or in parallel when the cable run is 25 feet?
1x MorningStar SunSaver SS-MPPT-15L Charge Controller
1x Concorde PVX-340T Sun Xtender Solar Battery 12V
2x 12v 100w Solar Panel
Thanks in advance!
Comments
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Ignoring Solar for the moment...
[note: I messed up here--25 feet and 12 watts--See following post for corrections]
That battery seems awfully small for your application (12 volt @ 34 Amp*Hours??):- 12 volts * 34 AH * 1/25 watt load = 16.3 hours until "dead"
- 25 watts * 24 hours per day * 1/12 volt battery bank * 2 days * 1/0.50 maximum discharge = 200 Amp*Hour @ 12 volt battery bank
-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
Thanks Bill for getting back. I have to use a sealed battery because I will be mounting the solar panel and battery box rig on top of a light pole that is approximately 90 feet high. The structural engineer may have some reservations with me putting my rig that is over 100 lbs. So far I calculated 85 lbs. I guess my other option is to put have the battery box on the bottom of the light pole. The light pole won't have 120v power for 3 years.
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I would suggest placing all serviceable components at the base of the pole--Unless you have easy/cheap access to a lift.
Of course, that gets security questions (if a problem). Possibly place the electrical box at a lower height (use a ladder).
And "Oops...". I got my numbers mixed up, you are running 12 Watts, not 25 watts--Mixed the numbers up in my earlier post:- 12 volts * 34 AH * 1/12 watt load = 34 hours until "dead"
- 12 watts * 24 hours per day * 1/12 volt battery bank * 2 days * 1/0.50 maximum discharge = 96 Amp*Hour @ 12 volt battery bank
- 12 watts * 24 hours per day * 1/0.77 charge controller+panel derating * 1/0.90 AGM batt eff * 1/2 hours of sun per day = 208 Watt array minimum
- 96 AH battery bank * 14.5 volts charging * 1/0.77 panel+controller derating * 0.10 rate of charge = 181 Watt array recommended minimum size (10% rate of charge)
You started this as a wiring length question--Solar panels mounted on pole? And yes, I probably would use the two solar panels in series to allow a smaller awg wire. Using a generic voltage drop calculator:- 2 * 100 Watt panels * 1/35 volts Vmp-array = ~5.71 amps Imp
- 0.03 maximum recommended voltage drop * 35 volts Vmp-array = 1.05 volt maximum drop
14 AWG wire:
Voltage drop: 0.72
Voltage drop percentage: 2.06%
Voltage at the end: 34.28
10 AWG wire:
Voltage drop: 0.29
Voltage drop percentage: 0.83%
Voltage at the end: 34.71
So, I would suggest around 14-10 AWG wire as being optimum for this installation.
-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
Thanks BIll for your help! To squeeze as much volts from the panel and not lose it too much is to use as you suggested 10 AWG. Thanks again!
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