Low morning Batt. voltage

Options
2»

Comments

  • wespo
    wespo Registered Users Posts: 20
    Options
    Re: Low morning Batt. voltage

    I have been using the system as a "whole" with the bad battery...is it better to take out that bad string and run on just 1 string until I find replacements, or can I keep both strings intact and continue to get use out of them all??

    Thanks.
    Bill
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,447 admin
    Options
    Re: Low morning Batt. voltage

    Depending on what the failure is... If it is simply "low capacity" then you can probably leave them in. May not matter much if the capacity is 1/2 or less of the other string.

    If the failure is an open cell--it does not matter (little energy available). A partially open cell may overheat during charging/discharging and force you to remove the bad battery.

    If the failure is a shorted cell--then you need to pull the bad battery. The shorted cell will draw the rest of the parallel batteries down (during charging and during use). Also, shorted cells may overheat and cause further problems.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Photowhit
    Photowhit Solar Expert Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Re: Low morning Batt. voltage

    I would lean the other way, remove the bad string. as they are connected the good string will always try to "bring up" the bad string hence bringing down it's capacity.

    Their might be some over charging going on as well since the voltage reading will be measure based on the weak string.

    Either situation will be hurting your good string. I'd remove the string then let it cycle a few days and see where your at. I'd guess your morning voltage will be up a bit...
    Home system 4000 watt (Evergreen) array standing, with 2 Midnite Classic Lites,  Midnite E-panel, Magnum MS4024, Prosine 1800(now backup) and Exeltech 1100(former backup...lol), 660 ah 24v Forklift battery(now 10 years old). Off grid for 20 years (if I include 8 months on a bicycle).
    - Assorted other systems, pieces and to many panels in the closet to not do more projects.
  • wespo
    wespo Registered Users Posts: 20
    Options
    Re: Low morning Batt. voltage

    As a follow-up:

    I removed the bad string.

    I charged the "good" string to what seemed to be a full charge...14.1 volts each.

    That string held through the night for about 10 days...with morning voltages dropping each succesive day.

    I measured the voltages this morning (21 days out), as the inverter low battery disconnected, and found 1 of the remaining 2 batteries was low at 10.15V, the other battery read 12.45V.

    I am assuming there is some sulfation going on here. I plan to remove the welded covers. Anything specific I should be looking for in the cells? I do have a hyrdometer and plan to test the electrolyte.

    An interesting note is that 1 of the "bad" string batteries left sitting out has increased it's voltage to 11.42V. Any chance this is salvageable for light duty use (small fountain pumps, etc.)? I have a small 20W (12V) panel I can directly connect to it.

    Bill
  • westbranch
    westbranch Solar Expert Posts: 5,183 ✭✭✭✭
    Options
    Re: Low morning Batt. voltage

    look here for some different views on battery failure.

    http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/lowpower.htm

    HTH
    Eric
     
    KID #51B  4s 140W to 24V 900Ah C&D AGM
    CL#29032 FW 2126/ 2073/ 2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3 x 4s 140W to 24V 900Ah C&D AGM 
    Cotek ST1500W 24V Inverter,OmniCharge 3024,
    2 x Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr & Bridge,
    Eu3/2/1000i Gens, 1680W & E-Panel/WBjr to come, CL #647 asleep
    West Chilcotin, BC, Canada