So easy to fix many bad solar panels.

softdown
softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭
We took off the protective panel and found extremely simple electronics. Basically just a few diodes connecting the power output. Diodes are cheap. We looked for “solar rated” diodes in the proper voltage range. Could be 45 or 50 volts for example. 

Took us a couple minutes to try a few diodes and the burned out panels worked perfectly. 

Could be a good idea to stock some diodes in the event of a lightning strike? A batch starts at ~ $8 or so. 
First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with  FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries

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  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,702 admin
    Depends if Lighting Damaged the protection diodes, or damaged the solar cells (also diodes).

    Better would be to do mitigation such as surge suppressors, proper grounding, etc.

    In the end, a direct lighting strike can very easily damage even properly installed solar power systems.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭
    Fair enough. But why not invest in some diodes at ~ .25 cents/panel, or so, for additional insurance. 

    I have some personal experience with how remarkably easy it is to kill panels. They were even ~95% covered from the sun. Or so I thought. In hind sight it is likely that sunlight leached through a cheap plastic tarp. 
    First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with  FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries
  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's great if you have accessible diodes in your panels and they need to be replaced. A lot of them are potted in some weird orange/yellow synthetic amber.

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭
    Wonder why they do that? Sounds messy.

    Yea, takes about 5 minutes to do a complete diode swap on my panels - from start to finish including accessing the diodes and finishing up. One panel read 13 volts, the other read 0 volts. So 4 or 5 bad diodes out of six - is my guess. 
    First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with  FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries
  • littleharbor2
    littleharbor2 Solar Expert Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's to make them impervious to the elements

    2.1 Kw Suntech 175 mono, Classic 200, Trace SW 4024 ( 15 years old  but brand new out of sealed factory box Jan. 2015), Bogart Tri-metric,  460 Ah. 24 volt LiFePo4 battery bank. Plenty of Baja Sea of Cortez sunshine.

  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭
    O ring on the access plate should do that. Should.

    A single O ring keeps catastrophic disasters away in tens of billions of applications. 
    First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with  FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries
  • mike_s
    mike_s Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭✭
    >A single O ring keeps catastrophic disasters away in tens of billions of applications. 

    Or causes them in some.
  • softdown
    softdown Solar Expert Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭
    Yea, O ring failure is not rare. Opinions vary greatly but I suspect that O ring quality and proper sizing play important roles. “An O ring is an O ring” does not ring true in my opinion. 

    However, being on the back of a solar panel mostly protects it from the elements. I would bet that O ring failure is not a leading cause of panel failure. If the O rings are somehow exposed to the elements then potting the diodes becomes a prudent measure. 
    First Bank:16 180 watt Grape Solar with  FM80 controller and 3648 Inverter....Fullriver 8D AGM solar batteries. Second Bank/MacGyver Special: 10 165(?) watt BP Solar with Renogy MPPT 40A controller/ and Xantrex C-35 PWM controller/ and Morningstar PWM controller...Cotek 24V PSW inverter....forklift and diesel locomotive batteries