Prop 127 and APS in Arizona

solar_dave

Anybody have and feedback on the AZ constitutional amendment forcing more solar via mandate?

cow_rancher

Sounds good, after all solar is free... right?  There are so many problems with 127 I really don't know where to start.

Rancher

mcnutt13579

I don't live in Arizona but I do live in the state where one would have expected to find such a proposition. My comment is that apart from all the flaws in the issue, amending the constitution is not the place to do regulation of types of power. Besides the idea that the state has any business or authority to force people to get their energy from one place or another.

solar_dave

Yeah, That is kind of the way I was looking at it as well.  The constitution is really the wrong place to legislate such a change. I certainly hope the grandfathered clauses all hold.

mcgivor

Obviously this would be an amendment to the state constitution, but under what part would the amendments be made?
https://www.azleg.gov/constitution/
Mining perhaps? 

BB.

Just look at what happened in California back in the 2000's when they legislated a new way to deregulate by making a whole bunch of new regulations... Power outages, massive transfers of money, and bankrupting major utilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis

It was not pretty...

Japan shut down all of their nuclear reactors... 

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP-Japanese-institute-sees-19-reactor-restarts-by-March-2018-2807164.html

And a drop in Japan's use of Liquified Natural Gas because of reactor restarts (yea carbon reduction ):

http://petroleumworld.com/story18090405.htm

Germany also shutting down its nuclear plants for renewables... But:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/france-germany-turn-coal/

Germany’s plan is to shutter all of its nuclear units by 2022 and to have renewable energy provide 40 to 45 percent of its generation by 2025 and 80 percent by 2050[ii]—up from 30 percent in 2025. Replacing nuclear power with renewable energy has proven difficult, however, mainly due to the intermittency of wind and solar power. When wind and solar are not available to generate electricity, German power buyers turn to coal. In fact, Germany opened over 10 gigawatts of new coal fired power plants over the past 5 years.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/germany-finds-local-coal-filthy-and-irresistible-1539163800

Surcharges for renewable energy have (roughly) doubled the cost of power in Germany:

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/what-german-households-pay-power

Putting anything like this into a state's constitution--Is just asking for trouble.

In my humble opinion.

-Bill