Why are Double Tap Neutrals Not Allowed in a Main Load Panel?
MrM1
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In a main load center, why is it unacceptable to double tap the neutral if the bus bar is otherwise full. I know it has been spelled out in the NEC since 2002 as unacceptable. But it is also not required to go back and change if it was done in earlier homes if the lugs of the bus bar are designed for 2 wires.
I did some digging and the only reason I can find for it not being allowed (from publications by Schneider etc) is that (1) in the
case of diagnostic when a circuit needs to be isolated, in the loosening
of the two different circuit's neutrals under the same lug, if the other circuit (not the one being isolated) is under load
could present a safety hazard, and may establish an overvoltage condition. And (2) if the double tapped neutrals came loose it could cause over heating and/or arching. But again if the lug is made for 2 conductors .... ??
But who would want to work on any circuit underload in a
main load panel while it is energized. Or even work in an energized main load panel for that matter - except maybe to tighten the main breaker lugs. I know I will not touch a neutral bus bar unless the main breaker for that panel is off. Why not just turn off the main breaker,
disconnect the neutral needed to diagnose and reconnect the other
neutral before turning the main back on? Seems this whole ruling in the
NEC was written to protect workers who should have been taught
differently. Wouldn't it make more sense to teach a different technique than to
make a rule for every possibility.
What am I not seeing? What other dangers could there be if the lug of the bus bar is designed for 2 conductors? Not that I'm going to do it, I am simply trying to understand. I am having to redo a sub panel at my house that has a bonded ground / neutral bus bar (I am running a new ground from the main panel) and also found some neutral double taps.
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The rational behind rules is to protect both personal and property from potentially hazardous circumstances, in the case of electricans it is common to work in an energized distribution panel, this is where the isolation of a single conductor in a double tap presents potential issues. Secondly a terminal designed for a single conductor may not provide adequate connection to two conductors due to displacement, potentially generating heat, which could result in fire. Electrical code rules are constantly updated to address misinterpretation of existing rules or to define changes in practice, the rules and changes are primarily intended for new installations, however when retrofitting an existing installation, such as a panel upgrade the new rules will apply.1500W, 6× Schutten 250W Poly panels , Schneider MPPT 60 150 CC, Schneider SW 2524 inverter, 400Ah LFP 24V nominal battery with Battery Bodyguard BMS
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