Zomeworks and a crane
The first identical Zomeworks we assembled up in the air on the pole, and to be honest it was a lot of work for us; we are not 29 anymore.... Luckily we have a back hoe and we used it to lift most the parts up and assembled it in place which was a real help, and maybe we should just do that again. As an alternate I am thinking maybe put together our last Zomeworks on the ground (using sawhorses) and even attach all nine panels, and then hiring a crane to come out and lift the entire array up and set the array down onto the eight inch post since the gimble should drop right over its post. I am sure some have tried this but I cannot find much information on how it went, did it work, was there too much flexing, unexpected problems, etc. Leaving off the freon components/rails on the opposite sides would protect them and would allow hoisting cables to be attached to each corner (without risk of damaging these freon components) and the crane could hoist off these four corners, and then once up in place attaching the freon parts and connecting tube would not be too difficult. A crane company I contacted has said they can lift it into place, but we have also had problems in the past with contractors heading up to our place and deciding the road was too rough, too remote, etc., so that is a wild card with no answer, even though this crane operator seems familiar with the area and task. Appreciate any input that can be offered as we wrap up installation of our system. What we have installed to date runs great, love the whole set up.
controll breakers, surge protector), Zomeworks (two-UTRF-168) 9 panels on each, 2 fixed pole arrays with 6 panels on each, 24 Rolls Surrettes S-1660 (2 v) for a 48 v battery bank, various MidNite circuit breakers, combiner boxes, Zephyr Power Vent, Hydrovolt, MidNite Solar surge protector for AC/DC circuits. Honda generators; 800, EU2000i, EM3500sx, EM6500. Generac 8000.
Off road Jeep trailer M416 conversion. 4 Kyocera 40 watt PV panels, Outback FX 2012 MT, Trimetric 2025 RV, 4 Optima Blue Tops, 400 watt AirX wind turbine (12 v), Morningstar Sunsaver S20 w/LVD disconnect , MidNite battery capacity meter, various fuses,.
NEW 12/21: Sold the Jeep trailer, so that's gone. The Home system is I am redoing completely, retiring the "old" home systems except still using Kyocera solar panels, etc. New permitted system: roughly 16,000 watts of solar panels (54 panels, Kyocera and REC), spread out on 2 Zomeworks, 2 Powerfab pole top mounts, and a large Snap N Rack ground mount (8000 watts with grade beam footings).. 2 Outback 8048A with load centers, 4 Outback flex 100 charge controllers, 4 combiner boxes, multiple surge protectors, Mate 3s, HUB 10, FNDC, 2 Lynx 1000 amp bus bars, 6 Fortress E Flex 5.4 Lithium Batteries, Square D Stu 223 disconnect, lots of matched battery cables, circuit breakers, fuses, etc. Still finishing ground mount, inspector said to finish system and then final, estimate 2-3 weeks, no anticipated problems going well. Kohler 14kW RESA, Honda EM6500, etc.
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I build arrays on the pole. It may take me longer but I can do them myself at my own pace. I sometimes will get a guy to help lift H series panels but the normal Panasonics I use are 42" x 62" and I can manage them. Most of my business is helping my clients do the job them self on my design and my wholesale system in one shipment.
I use Array Technology trackers but their 8" pole mount is similar to the Zome. Build a scaffold or use ladders. The last thing I would want is some guy that I do not know lifting all that glass.
A side story here was I helped a guy put his 40 ton sailboat on a 18 wheeler and we had to lift it from one truck to another in Tucson.
He was worried about the crane guys. when we got there, it ended up they were the exact same guy's who lifted the space shuttle off of a 747 the day before. They were amazing the way they just looked at it and then in 5 minutes it was done."we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
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rent scaffold and have helpers hoist the parts to you. That's how I did my 2nd pole mount, which was too tall to
build from the roof of a van. Using scaffold was pretty easy, if you don't mind working high up. You have time to rest and go slow, not paying for a crane every 6 minutes.
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Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
|| Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
|| VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A
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Thanks Dave and Mike for your input, You both mention scaffolds and that is something I have not tried.
The way you have your ladders and scaffolding set up Mike looks like the way to go. Lots of stable working room, almost looks like it might even be easier than assembling on the ground. I will check into local scaffolding rental.
Lifting the space shuttle off a 747 is something I would like to see in person. That was certainly a confidence booster once your friend heard that Dave.
Home. 30 Kyocera 265 6MCA, FP2-VFX3648 (two FM80 charge controllers, FW-X240 transformer, MATE3, HUB10, FLEXnet DC, two 80A charge
controll breakers, surge protector), Zomeworks (two-UTRF-168) 9 panels on each, 2 fixed pole arrays with 6 panels on each, 24 Rolls Surrettes S-1660 (2 v) for a 48 v battery bank, various MidNite circuit breakers, combiner boxes, Zephyr Power Vent, Hydrovolt, MidNite Solar surge protector for AC/DC circuits. Honda generators; 800, EU2000i, EM3500sx, EM6500. Generac 8000.Off road Jeep trailer M416 conversion. 4 Kyocera 40 watt PV panels, Outback FX 2012 MT, Trimetric 2025 RV, 4 Optima Blue Tops, 400 watt AirX wind turbine (12 v), Morningstar Sunsaver S20 w/LVD disconnect , MidNite battery capacity meter, various fuses,.
NEW 12/21: Sold the Jeep trailer, so that's gone. The Home system is I am redoing completely, retiring the "old" home systems except still using Kyocera solar panels, etc. New permitted system: roughly 16,000 watts of solar panels (54 panels, Kyocera and REC), spread out on 2 Zomeworks, 2 Powerfab pole top mounts, and a large Snap N Rack ground mount (8000 watts with grade beam footings).. 2 Outback 8048A with load centers, 4 Outback flex 100 charge controllers, 4 combiner boxes, multiple surge protectors, Mate 3s, HUB 10, FNDC, 2 Lynx 1000 amp bus bars, 6 Fortress E Flex 5.4 Lithium Batteries, Square D Stu 223 disconnect, lots of matched battery cables, circuit breakers, fuses, etc. Still finishing ground mount, inspector said to finish system and then final, estimate 2-3 weeks, no anticipated problems going well. Kohler 14kW RESA, Honda EM6500, etc.
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I don't think anyone will ever see the shuttle go piggyback again. Pretty sad the state NASA has left us. I guess the good part is the private sector doing things that Boeing and Lockheed just can't do anymore for less than a million a minute."we go where power lines don't" Sierra Nevada mountain area
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E-mail offgridsolar@sti.net
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