4 battery (12 volt Dec each) series connected to run a 2 hp 48 volt dc motor

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harvshu
harvshu Registered Users Posts: 3
edited March 2016 in Solar Beginners Corner #1
What is the best way to set up a solar charging system for this arrangement?
HELP!

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  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you need about 70V of solar cells (Vmp) not Voc, to provide the charge controller enough voltage to charge and equalize a 48V battery (can require almost 65V at times) .
    Then you need enough PV amps, to recharge the battery in the limited sunlight hours that are usable for charging (3 hrs winter, 5 hrs summer as a rough guess) Panels only put out 80% of nameplate amps, batteries generally need 120% of what was removed from them,
    That's a start.   Work all the calculations in watts & watt hours, not amp hours
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

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  • oil pan 4
    oil pan 4 Solar Expert Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    Need more information. How much will you run it, is it really only going to make 2 horsepower or will it be more or less?

    Solar hybrid gasoline generator, 7kw gas, 180 watts of solar, Morningstar 15 amp MPPT, group 31 AGM, 900 watt kisae inverter.

    Solar roof top GMC suburban, a normal 3/4 ton suburban with 180 watts of panels on the roof and 10 amp genasun MPPT, 2000w samlex pure sine wave inverter, 12v gast and ARB air compressors.

  • harvshu
    harvshu Registered Users Posts: 3
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    It is the power supply for an electric boat motor that will be used sporadically, usually on a weekend.  So, the 2hp load (from the motor nameplate) is variable depending on the "use of the day", and I don't think it can be more...
  • harvshu
    harvshu Registered Users Posts: 3
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    Hi Mike, I looked at your solar: site and would like to know what would be the Voc at the output of the "combiner" for the pv arrays?
  • oil pan 4
    oil pan 4 Solar Expert Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭
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    You need to figure out how much power you are using to charge the batteries. I assume you have some kind of grid power charger?

    The easiest way I can think of to do this is plug the battery into a kill-a-watt meter, see how much power goes into them over the course of a weekend and go from there.

    Solar hybrid gasoline generator, 7kw gas, 180 watts of solar, Morningstar 15 amp MPPT, group 31 AGM, 900 watt kisae inverter.

    Solar roof top GMC suburban, a normal 3/4 ton suburban with 180 watts of panels on the roof and 10 amp genasun MPPT, 2000w samlex pure sine wave inverter, 12v gast and ARB air compressors.

  • mike95490
    mike95490 Solar Expert Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    harvshu said:
    Hi Mike, I looked at your solar: site and would like to know what would be the Voc at the output of the "combiner" for the pv arrays?
    Can't help you there.  The Panel voltages will be on the sticker on the backside, and then as the temperature goes colder, the Voc of each panel goes up, so you go with the historical low temp for your area
    Powerfab top of pole PV mount | Listeroid 6/1 w/st5 gen head | XW6048 inverter/chgr | Iota 48V/15A charger | Morningstar 60A MPPT | 48V, 800A NiFe Battery (in series)| 15, Evergreen 205w "12V" PV array on pole | Midnight ePanel | Grundfos 10 SO5-9 with 3 wire Franklin Electric motor (1/2hp 240V 1ph ) on a timer for 3 hr noontime run - Runs off PV ||
    || Midnight Classic 200 | 10, Evergreen 200w in a 160VOC array ||
    || VEC1093 12V Charger | Maha C401 aa/aaa Charger | SureSine | Sunsaver MPPT 15A

    solar: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar
    gen: http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Lister ,