Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)

SH Yang
SH Yang Registered Users Posts: 9
Good Day.

My project is the vibration analysis on a turbine and blades with FFT and CWT after attaching 3 axis acclerometers on a turbine and blades and voltages and currents (both voltages and currents are provided from the wind turbine channels).

Currently, I knew that the ouputs from the accelerometers needs to be transformed FFT for vibration analysis, however,
I am not sure that how the voltages and currents will be used for vibration interpreting.

According to my research, so far, I guess, the voltages and currents need to be calculated into powers, and then analyze how the vibration (frequency) affects the powers on the turbine. Am I right??



  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,402 admin
    Re: Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)

    What do you mean by "powers?"...

    Conversion into dBmW (decibel referenced to a Milli Watt)?

    Or 10xLog10 (xxmW/1mW)

    You will see 20xLog10 (xxmW/1mW) but this is because, for the most part, the sensors are measuring Amps or Voltage rather than power:
    • Power = I2R = V2/R = V*I

    Bringing the "2" down from the square in the power equation to a multiplication in the Log function (10x for power; 20x for V or I measurements).

    You will be looking for strong energy peaks in your spectrum...

    More or less 2-3 db differences are within the margin of error... 10+ db differences are significant differences.

    In general, you will want to plot the power vs frequency in mWatts Log/Log or linear DB voltage or current /Log frequency scale (note that DB is already a logarithmic conversion so plotting a linear db/Log scale is the same as Watt Log/Log plot).

    When looking at your results--Look for Bode Plots--The standard (at least a couple decades ago) used to understand the "stability" of any damped response system.

    The response of the system at resonant frequency(ies) and the phase between the measurement parameters will tell you if the system will be stable or build up vibrational energy--possibly to destruction (for example, alternator "cogging" at a frequency that causes blades or gear train to oscillate). Understanding dampening of the energy at various "resonant" frequencies is going to be critical--You don't want straight cut gear frequency causing excessive resonant oscillations of the blades which could cause their base or hub to fracture from long term stresses (my guess--this was not really my field).

    Is this what you were asking?

    -Bill "it has been a long time" B.
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Windsun
    Windsun Solar Expert Posts: 1,164 ✭✭
    Re: Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)

    If you search the internet for "wind turbine blade vibration analysis" there are a lot of articles available on that subject.
  • SH Yang
    SH Yang Registered Users Posts: 9
    Re: Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)

    That's what I questioned.
    Thanks you very much! :D
  • newmeilwindturbine
    newmeilwindturbine Registered Users Posts: 3
    Re: Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)

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  • System2
    System2 Posts: 6,290 admin
    Re: Wind Project inquiries. (Vibration analysis on a turbine and blades.)
    Windsun wrote: »
    If you search the internet for "wind turbine blade vibration analysis" there are a lot of articles available on that subject.

    However not all of them are reliable. Maybe post some links to some of the resources you've found useful...
    Steve Works
    vibration testing