Tutorial on Wind Power
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I have a need to learn the fundamentals or key points concerning wind generated power. My question is, does anyone have a good place to point me to?
I looked at the 'sticky' for this forum, and while there's a lot of good information, particularly on wind stats, hype, market future, politics, etc., I didn't see anything on how to actually put it in.
I.e., if I were to put in an HAWT in my backyard (hypothetical) for a grid-tie only system, setting aside for a moment comments on reliability, performance, etc., what would the installation include?
I have reasonable familiarity with what's required for a solar PV grid-tie only system, so I'm not starting from scratch.
Some rookie questions that aren't part of solar PV systems, that I'd like to learn about include:
- do wind turbines output AC instead of DC?
- what's a 'break' and why is it needed?
- how is the inverter different? AC to AC?
- how does the power get reliably put onto the grid?
- why is a dummy load needed, and is it an electrical or mechanical 'gadget?'
- are batteries now required, even for a grid-tie only system, to 'even out' what is put onto the grid?
- etc. (unique to wind turbine system questions)
Many thanks!
Best regards,
Bill
I looked at the 'sticky' for this forum, and while there's a lot of good information, particularly on wind stats, hype, market future, politics, etc., I didn't see anything on how to actually put it in.
I.e., if I were to put in an HAWT in my backyard (hypothetical) for a grid-tie only system, setting aside for a moment comments on reliability, performance, etc., what would the installation include?
I have reasonable familiarity with what's required for a solar PV grid-tie only system, so I'm not starting from scratch.
Some rookie questions that aren't part of solar PV systems, that I'd like to learn about include:
- do wind turbines output AC instead of DC?
- what's a 'break' and why is it needed?
- how is the inverter different? AC to AC?
- how does the power get reliably put onto the grid?
- why is a dummy load needed, and is it an electrical or mechanical 'gadget?'
- are batteries now required, even for a grid-tie only system, to 'even out' what is put onto the grid?
- etc. (unique to wind turbine system questions)
Many thanks!
Best regards,
Bill
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Re: Tutorial on Wind PowerSome rookie questions that aren't part of solar PV systems, that I'd like to learn about include:
- do wind turbines output AC instead of DC?
AC is much easier to transmit/transform(er) than DC.
Small wind turbines typically turn at "optimum" speed for load/wind speed--so their RPM/Frequency changes with wind speed and load.
Many of the Large Utility Turbines are fixed speed alternators that spin, in sync, with the AC line frequency (you will see this on many wind farms--all blades turning exactly in sync).- what's a 'break' and why is it needed?- how is the inverter different? AC to AC?- Grid Tied Inverter--A current mode energy source that "follows the voltage/frequency" of the Utility Mains (utility is a "voltage mode" energy source). Output current/power is typically based on available power from the solar array (or other energy source), usually as determined by MPPT (maximum power point tracking) hardware/software in the inverter.
- Off Grid Inverter--A voltage mode energy source that takes energy (typically) from a constant voltage energy source (like a battery bank) and outputs the voltage/frequency needed to support AC loads.
- Hybrid Inverter--Typically connects to a battery bank and can operate in Grid Tied mode (if utility mains are present) or in Off Grid mode (if no utility power is present).
- Inverters typically take DC energy, "inverter it" to high frequency AC voltage/current (smaller inductors/capacitors needed at high frequency) then output 50/60HZ AC for loads.
- The above can be mixed and matched depending on exact needs (there are large wind turbines that use "wild frequency alternators to DC to AC using GT type technology).
- how does the power get reliably put onto the grid?- why is a dummy load needed, and is it an electrical or mechanical 'gadget?'
Another way is to "short the output" of the alternator--this provides a "load" on the blades--and no dummy load needed (zero volts * any amps = zero watts). However, alternators themselves have been burned out using the shorted output method is used in very heavy winds.- are batteries now required, even for a grid-tie only system, to 'even out' what is put onto the grid?
- etc. (unique to wind turbine system questions)- enough wind (location, location, location). No wind, no power. Little wind, little power.
- clean wind (high tower, no obstructions
- Put a few thousand pounds of rotating equipment on top of a 60-120 foot tower
- Slip rings--to transmit power from rotating head to fixed tower (rings fail, what happens to turbine/electronics
- "brakes fail"--need multiple levels of backups to prevent runaways/self destruction/injuries on ground/etc.
- Weather--placing electro mechanical devices 100' in the air--a very tough environment (sun, wind, dust, water, ice, etc.).
- Servicing--electro mechanical systems need servicing. How to do it cost effectively (tilt-up towers, cranes, etc.).
- Towers/Infrastructure--At least for small turbines, towers and infrastructure cost way more than turbines themselves... People tend to "cheap out" on the turbine which is the heart of the system and most expensive to service.
-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
Re: Tutorial on Wind Power
Very helpful! Thanks!
I now understand, for example, that all of the wind turbines are AC 3 phase. And that some (i.e. Skystream) come with everything built in such that it's a 60 Hz 240 VAC output connection straight to the service panel. And for other, it's all ala cart, i.e., a rectifier, break switch, dump load, DC-to-AC inverter made for wind turbines, etc.
Best regards,
Bill
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