Unit conversion oversight
Dabbler
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Hi, trying to compare output from passive solar water heaters for a pool to the wattage I get from pv panels. Conversions like this used to be simple for me, but now I could use some oversight if anyone has interest or time. Critisism welcome, stop me where I'm wrong.....
For the passive heaters... I measure pool water flow = 8 gal/min.
Temp gain from pool to return from panels = 5 degrees F
1 btu = 1 degree F per 1 lb water
8 gpm x 8 lbs/gal = 64 lbs water/min
64 lbs water x 5 degrees F = 320 btu/min
320 btu/min x 60 min/hr = 19,200 btu/h
Btu (thermo)/hr x 0.2928751 = watts (from http://www.simetric.co.uk/sibtu.htm, first google I found)
19,200 btu/h x 0.2928751 = 5,623 watts
Could I be collecting that much?
Collectors: 4'x10' X 6 = 240 sq. ft.
5,623 watts/ 240 sq. ft. = 23.43 watts/sq ft
Compared to my Kyocera 125w panels,
pv panel = 25 1/2" x 56" = 2.125' x 4.67' = 9.92 sq ft. (my measurements)
125w/9.92 sq ft = 12.6 watts/sq ft
Does this sound about right, or do I have my math wrong?
Many thanks
For the passive heaters... I measure pool water flow = 8 gal/min.
Temp gain from pool to return from panels = 5 degrees F
1 btu = 1 degree F per 1 lb water
8 gpm x 8 lbs/gal = 64 lbs water/min
64 lbs water x 5 degrees F = 320 btu/min
320 btu/min x 60 min/hr = 19,200 btu/h
Btu (thermo)/hr x 0.2928751 = watts (from http://www.simetric.co.uk/sibtu.htm, first google I found)
19,200 btu/h x 0.2928751 = 5,623 watts
Could I be collecting that much?
Collectors: 4'x10' X 6 = 240 sq. ft.
5,623 watts/ 240 sq. ft. = 23.43 watts/sq ft
Compared to my Kyocera 125w panels,
pv panel = 25 1/2" x 56" = 2.125' x 4.67' = 9.92 sq ft. (my measurements)
125w/9.92 sq ft = 12.6 watts/sq ft
Does this sound about right, or do I have my math wrong?
Many thanks
Comments
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Re: Unit conversion oversight
Dabbler,
Efficiency calculations are missing from your calculations. Full solar irradiation at sea level under clear skies is ~1,000 W / M^2. Typical "normal" irradiation is ~800 W/m^2. PV module efficiency is ~14% or so. My recollection is that solar water heater efficiency is 2X to 4 X that, or ~30% to ~60%.
Try factoring in those numbers and see what you get. Also, check out this site for more info: http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer/your_home/water_heating/index.cfm/mytopic=13230
HTH,
Jim / crewzer -
Re: Unit conversion oversight
Crewzer,
I took your suggestion and here's what I get:
Based on 800-1000 W / M^2 irradiation,
solar water heating panels: 42-53% efficiency,
PV panels: 14-17%.
I think these numbers match your predictions.
Thanks for having a look and the info and suggestion.
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