Testing of a 500W 24V VAWT

SolarWindBoy
SolarWindBoy Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭✭
I am looking at buying and testing a 500W, 24V VAWT from Alibaba. I appreciate that these probably aren’t very good, but I am interested in seeing what the output is in different conditions.


I was planning on ordering the following:
Wind Turbine & Generator: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2023-New-Product-Vertical-Wind-Turbine_1600692930236.html?s=p

Rectifier: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heschen-br...20062&sprefix=3+phase+rectifier,aps,64&sr=8-6

Power Meter: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Precision-...41-a90c-9c31c1e70dc1&pd_rd_i=B0BKG6CH2Q&psc=1

Load: ?

And connecting like this (It is a 3 phase generator and will be using a 3 phase bridge rectifier)



My plan was to connect a drill to the generator shaft and then use a tachometer to measure the generator RPM and then use the power meter to compare the power generated at different RPMs.



I was wondering if anyone could spot any flaws in this plan?

I am also unsure as to what to connect as a load. After testing I plan on connecting to a grid tie inverter but was wondering what the best way to simulate this would be as I believe the way the generator behaves depends on the load.



Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you.

Comments

  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,402 admin
    I would suggest looking at an Electronic Load of some sort... Just a generic search on Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=electronic+dc+load+tester&crid=3NBRPRLIX0YNE&sprefix=electronic+dc+load

    The actual Pmp=Vmp*Imp equation is a complex curve that has different solutions at different RPMs of the generator. An electronic load would allow you to get a more complete characterization of the genset.

    Another critical feature is are the turbine blades themselves... They have their own Wind Speed vs RPM vs Torque set of curves too... Which then brings up the "other missing" parameter--Torque on the turbine/generator shaft from the "drill motor" at X rpm, y voltage, and z current (and optimizing MPPT)...

    One company here (Midnite Solar), as I recall, was able to harvest (roughly?) 3x more energy from a generic wind turbine with their MPPT (maximum power point tracking) system vs just connecting a wind turbine to a battery bank with a dump load controller (i.e., pretty much fixed voltage battery charging vs MPPT variable Voltage*Current optimization system.

    Could you use a GT Inverter (Grid Tied) from the generator and use the GT Inverter (usually with MPPT function) to figure out the generator parameters--Probably. But this begs the question of what are your planned loads (battery bank, GT Inverter, MPPT controller to battery, or what).

    Understand that you are interested in the generator performance... But you linked to a VAWT (vertical axis wind turbine). Is this where you plans lead too? Personally, I do not believe that VAWT are capable of harvesting any useful amount of energy (they are simply not efficient at harvesting wind energy in any conditions). HAWT (horizontal axis wind turbines) have their issues--However, a well designed HAWT is a much better design (in my humble opinion).

    If you are just interested in the alternator itself, perhaps search for just the alternator itself and save money on not buying the balance of system and getting hit with the shipping costs.

    There is lots of information out there on turbines, alternators, and overall harvest capabilities... We have a few links here you can start with:

    https://wind-works.org/ (lots of history for wind turbines)
    https://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/3638/small-windpower-a-scam-survey-says-so/p1 (government test of a bunch of different turbines)
    Hugh Piggott - Scoraig Wind Electric site for tons of info
    Scoraig Wind "Recipe Book" for DYI Turbines
    Truth About Skystream & SWWP (a very "efficient" HAWT but had reliability issues--Went out of business, but recently resurrected).

    Most of the above links are 15 years old--Not much has really changed in the Wind Business--And usually try to suggest that more solar panels and other sources of backup power (gensets, hydro, etc.) are better.

    However, the DIY (do it yourself) wind turbines are probably, on average, better than most any turbine you can buy.

    Your thoughts?

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset