Aeration pump question
milt
Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭
I have a 475 watt inverter I'm using on a 4x25 watt panel. Trying to run a 80 watt 120 volt ac .625 amps aeration pump using a 55ah Agm battery and Pmr charge controler . The pump will run 5 to six hrs with full sun before the inverter shuts off. How many more panels doI need to keep my battery charged?
Comments
-
Welcome to the forum Milt.
Here is the basics for a relatively conservative design of an off grid AC power system. I will do this as a 24x7 system that runs year round... It will result in a system that is 2-4x larger than you would expect (or perhaps want). If you have Grid or Genset backup power, or run only 9 months a year, and can turn it off during bad weather--Different assumptions and results. Other options would be to only run the [ump during daylight hours (no battery--Can be 1/4 the cost and almost no maintenance if you can skip the battery bank).
Other options could include Li Ion type battery bank--Smaller but more expensive battery bank---
First, sizing the battery bank, nominally we design for 1-3 days of "no sun"--And generally 2 days of storage and 50% maximum discharge works best/optimally (less maintenance, better battery life for lead acid type batteries)...- 80 Watt pump * 1/0.85 AC inverter eff * 24 hours per day = 2,259 Watt*Hours per day (measuring actual DC energy usage is useful to confirm)
- 2,259 WH per day * 2 days storage * 1/0.50 maximum discharge * 1/12 volt battery bank = 753 AH @ 12 volt battery bank
- 55 AH * 12 volts * 0.50 maximum discharge * 1/80 Watts * 0.85 AC inverter eff = ~2 hours to 50% discharge
Next, two calculations for solar array sizing... First based on battery bank size... Nominally a 5% to 13% rate of charge, with 10% + recommended for full time off grid usage.- 753 AH * 14.5 volts charging * 1/0.77 panel+charge controller derarings * 0.05 rate of charge = 709 Watt array minimum
- 753 AH * 14.5 volts charging * 1/0.77 panel+charge controller derarings * 0.10 rate of charge = 1,418 Watt array nominal
- 753 AH * 14.5 volts charging * 1/0.77 panel+charge controller derarings * 0.13 rate of charge = 1,843 Watt array "cost effective" maximum
http://www.solarelectricityhandbook.com/solar-irradiance.htmlPittsburgh
Measured in kWh/m2/day onto a solar panel set at a 50° angle from vertical:
Average Solar Insolation figures
(For best year-round performance)
So, if this was a year round system with backup power... Pick December as 2.45 hours of sun per day:Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun 2.84
3.45
3.96
4.56
4.60
4.99
Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 5.04
4.85
4.67
4.11
2.77
2.45
- 2,259 WH per day (on battery bus) * 1/0.61 DC power system eff * 1/2.45 hours of sun per day = 1,512 Watt array "break even" December
Obviously, off grid battery based solar power is not cheap... picking an airator pump is no bigger than you need, and the most efficient you can find--Allows you to make the system as small as possible.
Or, if you can pump just during daylight, and to a solar panel -> pump controller -> pump motor allows a much smaller and cheaper system (and no-batteries makes things easier)--Of course, this means no pumping at night/during bad weather from solar.
Your thoughts?
-Bill
Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
This is my first stab at solar power. If I can pump only in daylight hours that would work for me. Not familiar with pump controller for use with no batteries. This is an a.c. Pump and would need an inverter in the syatem. How many watt panel wound I need to use for this system with no batteries and where would I get a pump controller? Could I use Two smaller diffusers on this et 80 2.88 cfm blue diamond pump? I'm using one 16 inch round diffuser now. I hooked up a homemade diffuser with 1/2 tubing and it took all the air away from the 16 inch diffuser. I assume I will need a manifold to with shutoff valves to regulate the air. My inverter shuts off the pump at around 11 volts so I'm not utilizing all my battery reserve. Is there any way to get around this? I got a relay from Missouri wind a solar that supposed to shut off system when sun is not enough to run the pump but afraid to hook it up for fear of burning something up.They told me how to wire but still comfortable wireing it up.
Categories
- All Categories
- 222 Forum & Website
- 130 Solar Forum News and Announcements
- 1.3K Solar News, Reviews, & Product Announcements
- 192 Solar Information links & sources, event announcements
- 888 Solar Product Reviews & Opinions
- 254 Solar Skeptics, Hype, & Scams Corner
- 22.4K Solar Electric Power, Wind Power & Balance of System
- 3.5K General Solar Power Topics
- 6.7K Solar Beginners Corner
- 1K PV Installers Forum - NEC, Wiring, Installation
- 2K Advanced Solar Electric Technical Forum
- 5.5K Off Grid Solar & Battery Systems
- 425 Caravan, Recreational Vehicle, and Marine Power Systems
- 1.1K Grid Tie and Grid Interactive Systems
- 651 Solar Water Pumping
- 815 Wind Power Generation
- 624 Energy Use & Conservation
- 611 Discussion Forums/Café
- 304 In the Weeds--Member's Choice
- 75 Construction
- 124 New Battery Technologies
- 108 Old Battery Tech Discussions
- 3.8K Solar News - Automatic Feed
- 3.8K Solar Energy News RSS Feed