High voltage alarm
pictonrose
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We added more panels and a second outback flexmax 80. We have panels wired in series/parallel. Panels are 245w, 30 v, 8 a. So I did the watts law calculations.
30+30+30+30=120v
8+8+8+8=32a
120v x 32a = 3840w
The flexmax 80 specs says 150 VDC, how do I convert voc to vdc?
We are getting high voltage alarm. Where have we gone wrong?
30+30+30+30=120v
8+8+8+8=32a
120v x 32a = 3840w
The flexmax 80 specs says 150 VDC, how do I convert voc to vdc?
We are getting high voltage alarm. Where have we gone wrong?
Comments
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Voc is the voltage from the solar panel(s) with no loads... Need to look at the exact specifications for your panels, but a "typical" Vmp~30 volt panel (voltage maximum power) has a Voc~37 volts (voltage open circuit).
The FM80 (and a number of other MPPT charge controllers) have a maximum solar panel input voltage of 150 VDC maximum (to protect the input transistors from over voltage). How many panels you connect in series sets Voc-array and Vmp-array voltages.
The other "gotcha" is that Vpanel rises in cold temperatures, and falls in hot temperatures (with "standard test temperature" ~77F/25C at the factory/marketing specifications).
In warm/hot weather, the solar panel cell temperatures are (roughly) 20C hotter than ambient temperaturess. So "hot panels" have the Vmp-hot fall, and you need to make sure that Vmp-hot > Vbatt+ a couple degrees C (wiring and controller drops). Typically, we suggest that you take Vbatt * 1.3 = Vmp-array-std voltage. If you have a 48 volt battery bank:- 60 volts charging * 1.3 "hot array" fudge factor = 78 Volts Vmp-array-std suggested minimum for an MPPT controller
https://outbackpower.com/resources/technical-support/string-sizing-tool
I like the on-line tools--I don't have to download everybody's calculator and fire up the windows computer to run (typically use a Chromebook for posting). Midnite has a nice couple of websites. This one is for their "classic" larger controllers:
I will make up some roughly accurate numbers for your array. And guessing you are at 0F (-18C) 245 Watt, Vmp-30.6 Voc=37.6, Imp=8. amps, Isc=10. amps, 4 panels in series:
http://www.midnitesolar.com/sizingTool/index.phpRated PV Array Power: 980 Watts Anticipated Array Power @ 40C: 914 Watts Rated PV Array Current: 8 Amps Battery Charging Current @ 57.6 V: 17 Amps VMP (Maximum Power Point Voltage) : 122.4 Volts VOC (Open Circuit Voltage): 150.4 Volts VMP @ -18 C°: 146 Volts VOC @ -18 C°: 171.6 Volts
At this point, it appears that your 4x panels in series is way to high of voltage--Especially at -18C... Your first fix (assuming I have the panel panel numbers close to correct, and your location/temperature (somewhere around Orrillia Ontario?)... A 3 string system would be:Rated PV Array Power: 735 Watts Anticipated Array Power @ 40C: 685 Watts Rated PV Array Current: 8 Amps Battery Charging Current @ 57.6 V: 12.8 Amps VMP (Maximum Power Point Voltage) : 91.8 Volts VOC (Open Circuit Voltage): 112.8 Volts VMP @ -18 C°: 109.5 Volts VOC @ -18 C°: 128.7 Volts
Two panels in series is too low of working voltage for a 48 volt battery bank (but OK for 12 or 24 volt bank).
And you would put 3 series and up to 8 parallel strings (at first glance).
Details do matter--Please feel free to correct my guesses/assumptions if you need more help... But the first thing is to get to 3 series panels. Many of the MPPT controllers will record the max input voltage and void your warranty if you exceed their ratings (and obviously, damage can easily occur).
-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
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