Grounding (using a grounding rod) for two separate strings in a tranformerless inverter system (SMA)
midijeep
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I have a SMA system (SunnyBoy with Sunny island) with two strings going into the SunnyBoys disconnect (provided with the inverter). I want to put a surge protection device between the panels and the SunnyBoy disconnect and using a grounding rod for the grounding.
I am trying to figure out the best thing to use for the surge protection device i.e. combiner box, another disconnect and being able to run the DC ground to a grounding rod.
The SMA system does not use a ground wire from the solar panels to the inverter (tranformerless). I want to place something like the Midnite Solar surge suppressor MNSPD-300-DC in between the panels and the DC disconnect of the SunnyBoy.
Should I use a separate ground rod for both strings?
What could be a possible way to do this?
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The path from the metal box (combiner/disconnects/etc.) to the ground should be as short and straight as possible. I suggest 6 AWG wire minimum (or get "real" lightning rated braided cable). No sharp bends (i.e., transition from wall to ground rod). Lightning is a "radio frequency" current and follows "different" rules vs DC and 50/60 Hz AC. Generally lightning will only flow a couple dozen feet down a 6 AWG cable before it finds a "different path" (or jump to a different path at a sharp bend).
Lightning wise, just a single ground rod right at the base of each box/surge suppressor is fine.
For "safety", I would highly suggest you run a minimum 6 AWG cable between each/all ground rods. That way if there is a short circuit between any of the Hot wires (whether DC or AC wiring) and metal racking, all DC / 50/60 Hz current flows between the short and the source (hopefully to trip a breaker).
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-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset -
Thanks Bill!. Do you recommend a disconnect/combiner box from Solar-elecric or any other source that would allow me to put a surge suppressor such as the mentioned Midnite Solar?
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I don't know your wiring.... Typically, if you have three or more parallel strings of solar panels going to one DC input, then you need a breaker/fuse per parallel string (i.e., a combiner box). With less than that, you do not need the breakers and can use a simple junction box at the array (or where ever you make your array to DC input connection).If you have a DC disconnect, in may be on the outside wall of the house (a good place for lightning suppression)--Or the disconnect may be on the bottom of the inverter/DC charge controller)... If the integrated DC disconnect is mounted on the outside wall, or just inside an outside wall, that is a good place for lightning suppression. If the DC stuff takes place on an interior wall--You potentially are bringing lightning into the home--A bad thing all away around--And installing a J-Box on the outside wall to interior transition is usually a good idea (with lightning suppressors to ground).You will notice I am being very generic here... Much of what is required will be set by your local building codes/inspectors. There has been a lot of new code added to protect firemen (roof top disconnects, setbacks of arrays from roof edge for cutting ventilation holes and access, etc.).I guess you are around Salt Lake Utah? ... Perhaps somebody here can add some more details (I am not a code person).Also note that the NEC has not been very good about lightning grounds vs standard Green Wire Safety Grounds. NEC by itself (historically) has not be a good reference for lightning control-BillNear San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
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