Feed Li-Ion BMS from MPPT or PWM (or not at all :-)
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My questions concern a 7s-24V Li-Ion battery system for different off-grid purposes. The system comes with a BMS that can draw or deliver 60A.
Regular charging of the system would be done through a power supply (BMS takes between 15V-60V).
My question is whether an MPPT or PWM charger could deliver the required input for the BMS (no worries mike95490 - not yet bought one ;-)
My current thoughts:
-- the charger will need to have a setting that 'disables' charging algorithims in order to deliver stable output ('load always on')
-- the BMS will then receive from the charger whatever voltage it is set to
-- setting the charger to 24V for the 29.4V rated system, to be converted to charge 7 packs of each 6 cells up to max 4.2V each should be no issue
-- I understand that an MPPT needs power for its CPU from the battery it is charging. This could be an issue, considering the BMS as a 'one way street' for the power fed into it. There may be a way around, if the BMS out-port can feed back into the MPPT or the MPPT can be fed some other way
-- My main concern would be the 'variable' power output from the charger. The voltage will likely be kept constant, meaning that the BMS gets to deal with a fluctuating current. Would there be a way to prevent or minimise this - if the BMS is not engineered to handle variable current input (separate question: outstanding with supplier).
-- Some other factors may come into play in the interaction between BMS and charger, that I have not thought of.
Many thanks for your thoughts (as well as for other great answers re: Li-ion - glad to have found this forum)
Ben
Amsterdam NL
Regular charging of the system would be done through a power supply (BMS takes between 15V-60V).
My question is whether an MPPT or PWM charger could deliver the required input for the BMS (no worries mike95490 - not yet bought one ;-)
My current thoughts:
-- the charger will need to have a setting that 'disables' charging algorithims in order to deliver stable output ('load always on')
-- the BMS will then receive from the charger whatever voltage it is set to
-- setting the charger to 24V for the 29.4V rated system, to be converted to charge 7 packs of each 6 cells up to max 4.2V each should be no issue
-- I understand that an MPPT needs power for its CPU from the battery it is charging. This could be an issue, considering the BMS as a 'one way street' for the power fed into it. There may be a way around, if the BMS out-port can feed back into the MPPT or the MPPT can be fed some other way
-- My main concern would be the 'variable' power output from the charger. The voltage will likely be kept constant, meaning that the BMS gets to deal with a fluctuating current. Would there be a way to prevent or minimise this - if the BMS is not engineered to handle variable current input (separate question: outstanding with supplier).
-- Some other factors may come into play in the interaction between BMS and charger, that I have not thought of.
Many thanks for your thoughts (as well as for other great answers re: Li-ion - glad to have found this forum)
Ben
Amsterdam NL
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I think a controller needs battery voltage to boot up, but once booted most (all?) should be happy running on solar input. A pwm controller may also need battery voltage to boot.Off-grid.
Main daytime system ~4kw panels into 2xMNClassic150 370ah 48v bank 2xOutback 3548 inverter 120v + 240v autotransformer
Night system ~1kw panels into 1xMNClassic150 700ah 12v bank morningstar 300w inverter
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