My panels are patially shaded.

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bc buck
bc buck Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭
I messed up on my install. I fabricated mounts to tilt my panels at 42 degrees. I screwed them down between ribs of roofing material and looks like a clean professional job. Now two of the three Kyocera KD 145sx-ufu in series are 25% shaded from panel in front of it. Dont really want to get on the roof till Spring to remount panels. How much power loss should I expect till Spring.

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  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,439 admin
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    The shaded panels will output near zero useful current during the times they are shaded.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • Estragon
    Estragon Registered Users Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BB - assuming the panels are mounted in landscape mode, is it possible he might get around half output, or would all the cells be wired in one series string per panel?
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  • DConlyGuy
    DConlyGuy Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭
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    as bill said a shaded panel is pretty much useless, even one shaded cell can bring a panel down 
    600 watts of solar panels,Epever 30 mppt , 2 PWHR12500W4FR battery's in 24 volt setup
  • BB.
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    These cells all are in parallel (it looks like 36 cells in series for Vmp~18 volts). You cannot limit shading to a subset of cells and reduced the effect of the shading.

    Conceivably, you could put the three panels in series with an MPPT charge controller on a 12 or 24 volt battery bank. And if you limit the shading to just once 9 cell vertical (or horizontal) row--That would reduce the panel Vmp to ~13.5 or ~9 volts (bypass diodes, assuming 4 of them, could be just 2 also--you need not open j-box to see). But I suggest that running current through bypass diodes for long periods of time is not great either (diodes get hot, very little cooling in a solar panel J-Box, hot diodes will eventually fail).

    Otherwise, there is nothing you can do that will really help other than "removing the shade".

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • bc buck
    bc buck Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭
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    BB. said:
    These cells all are in parallel (it looks like 36 cells in series for Vmp~18 volts). You cannot limit shading to a subset of cells and reduced the effect of the shading.

    Conceivably, you could put the three panels in series with an MPPT charge controller on a 12 or 24 volt battery bank. And if you limit the shading to just once 9 cell vertical (or horizontal) row--That would reduce the panel Vmp to ~13.5 or ~9 volts (bypass diodes, assuming 4 of them, could be just 2 also--you need not open j-box to see). But I suggest that running current through bypass diodes for long periods of time is not great either (diodes get hot, very little cooling in a solar panel J-Box, hot diodes will eventually fail).

    Otherwise, there is nothing you can do that will really help other than "removing the shade".

    -Bill
    Bill do you think diodes and panels would be OK till March. I hate to take chance in below freezing weather here in Missouri.
  • BB.
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    Are the panels in parallel?

    Is this a 12 volt battery back?

    If yes to both questions, then there should be no problem. The shaded panels just will not supply any useful current.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • bc buck
    bc buck Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭
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    BB. said:
    Are the panels in parallel?

    Is this a 12 volt battery back?

    If yes to both questions, then there should be no problem. The shaded panels just will not supply any useful current.

    -Bill


    3pc 12v panels in series using MPPT charger on 12v bank.
  • BB.
    BB. Super Moderators, Administrators Posts: 33,439 admin
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    Not my favorite for shade. Cold weather will help the diodes.

    And if any panels fail, there is always the mfg's warranty.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset