Battery Bank Wiring

Hi everyone! Thanks for your help with this.

I am writing a grant to fund the upgrade of a solar power system at a rural school in Uganda. I am currently in the process of accessing the state of the current system.

This is the only picture that I have of the battery bank.

Battery%20Bank.jpg

I am attempting to determine how the batteries are currently configured, but this doesn't look like any of the diagrams I have come across. Has this bank been cross tied? Anything you can tell me about this picture would be extremely helpful.

Edit: They are sealed lead-acid 12V/200Ah batteries

Thank you

Allen

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  • BB.BB. Posts: 25,246Super Moderators admin
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    What is the Inverter/Charger voltage? 12 or 24 volt DC... (I guess 60 VDC or 120 VDC is possible, but not standard or very common--at least around here).

    I don't see any other practical working voltage with 10 batteries...

    If 12 volts DC, then everything is connected in parallel.

    If 24 VDC, then each pair of batteries is connected in series, then each pair (5 pairs) are connected in parallel.

    -Bill
    Near San Francisco California: 3.5kWatt Grid Tied Solar power system+small backup genset
  • nielniel Posts: 10,311Solar Expert ✭✭✭✭
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    as best as i can make out it would appear to be series/parallel 24v for a 5x2 configuration. they are also sealed and are possibly agm.
  • System2System2 Posts: 6,290 admin
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    Bill: The charger is a Tristar 12Volt/60Amp TS-60MPPT and the inverter is a Phoenix Mult. C 24V/5000Watt.

    Neil: I also though it was a 5x2 24 volt configuration but there seems to be too many cables.
  • Solar GuppySolar Guppy Posts: 1,959Solar Expert
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    The Tristar is 12/24/48V capable so go by the Inverter voltage which is 24V so Niel got it right
  • System2System2 Posts: 6,290 admin
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    Can anyone tell from the picture if the bank if wired correctly for a 24 volt 5x2 configuration? The school has been having some problems with the system and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the wiring is wrong.
  • Solar GuppySolar Guppy Posts: 1,959Solar Expert
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    Most "problems" are either to little charge or too much load. Also, even if a perfect balance, battery's have a finite life time.

    Post the details of the charging source and the loads and i'm sure other will crunch the numbers for you

    From the picture, it looks correct for a 5x2 configuration
  • System2System2 Posts: 6,290 admin
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    It's a hybrid system that is charged by the panels and the powerline when it is on. The powerline is very unreliable though and I have been told is also at a much lower voltage then it is supposed to be. Here are the system specs:

    (10) ASE Monocrystalline 150 Watt panels
    (1) Tristar 12 Volt/60 Amp charge controller
    (10) sealed lead-acid 200Ah batteries
    (1) Phoenix Mult. C 24V/5000Watt inverter

    Here is a picture I have of the charge controller and inverter.

    Solar%207.JPG

    The school is looking to at least double their current number of panels and batteries.
  • Solar GuppySolar Guppy Posts: 1,959Solar Expert
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    Sounds like either the battery's are getting old/abused or the loads are too high. 5000 watt inverter for that battery bank is MUCH to big

    A good addition would be a battery monitor so the school could know when the battery bank has been depleted. I assume now, they run it until it cuts out on the low battery cutoff
  • mike95490mike95490 Posts: 6,514Solar Expert ✭✭✭✭
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring

    I wonder if auto-EQ was disabled in the charge controller for Sealed batteries.

    (Any idea if the batteries are AGM or GEL sealed) ?
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  • hillbillyhillbilly Posts: 334Solar Expert ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Re: Battery Bank Wiring
    Sounds like either the battery's are getting old/abused or the loads are too high. 5000 watt inverter for that battery bank is MUCH to big

    A good addition would be a battery monitor so the school could know when the battery bank has been depleted. I assume now, they run it until it cuts out on the low battery cutoff

    I think that the OP meant that the grid power was unreliable and of lower voltage? I didn't catch that there was any problems that he is aware of yet...

    5000 watt inverter doesn't sound so bad to me for a 1000AH 24V battery bank, if it's just being used as a back up and presumably not being run at full power all the time.

    I'd second the recommendation of a battery monitor, and to start keeping some records of the system use and performance.
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